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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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Hi Sjoerd,

Indeed I saw a Bo015 leaving around noon, I forgot to mention it in my report. So thx for the adjustment.
The Bo105 in my report was the one with the special c/s (fuselage partially painted in German flag colours), which actually did the demo.
Did you read of this one ?

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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Buccaneer S.2B wrote:Hi Sjoerd,

Indeed I saw a Bo015 leaving around noon, I forgot to mention it in my report. So thx for the adjustment.
The Bo105 in my report was the one with the special c/s (fuselage partially painted in German flag colours), which actually did the demo.
Did you read of this one ?

wkr.,
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The one parked on flightline east (and confirmed now by you departing around noon) starts with 86+ . .. I will need to edit my photos first in order to retrieve the final 2 digits, but once I have I will let u know.

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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On page 2 of this topic, arrecoos mentions that the demo-105 is 87+16..
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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frank kramer wrote:On page 2 of this topic, arrecoos mentions that the demo-105 is 87+16..
True and also mentioned in Remco's report, but the demo had the german flag on it and was parked on flight line west. The one we're after is a standard c/s Bo-105 without uinit mks parked on flightline east departing around noon.

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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After the event in the evening of 11.06. CH-53GE 84+14 came unfortunately only as far as Rietberg as you can see!
Sorry for having it in German only!

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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Sjoerd wrote:
Buccaneer S.2B wrote: Inside halle 9 (partially open)
unknown NH Industries NH90
There were actually 3 inside. I received conflicting serials via/via who got them from personel walking out the hangar, so anyone who read them actually off?
Source 1; 78+22, 78+25, 78+26
Source 2; 78+22, 78+26, 78+27
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At the flightlines were:
8.+.. MBB Bo105P
From my images it at least started with 86+. .. It was parked in the morning between the CH-53 and SAR UH-1D. In the afternoon it was gone?
The guy I asked had the serials / con nos. noted on his phone as he said he knew spotters would be asking, so here goes from Source 3 :)

7925 / 1043, 7822 / 1112, 7827 / 1118
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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I can confirm the Bo105P 86+39 Photo and one NH-90 in the hangar read as 78+22
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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Buccaneer S.2B wrote:Good morning,

Hereby a log of what seen last Saturday at a quite fruitfull "Tag der Bundeswehr".
I will kick off with the wrecks & relics:

Main gate:
75+11 SE3130 Alouette II
Preserved outside, near simulator building:
(86+71) MBB Bölkow Bo105P
71+97 Bell/Dornier UH-1D Huey I read 71+97 too. The photo on Eurodemobbed shows 71+98 on the other side of the boom. which one is correct, please?
83+32 Paisecki H21C Retriver
(SA101) / "QA+471" Sikorsky H34 Choctaw
Ausbildungswerkstatt, inside and outside:
40+58 Dornier/Berguet Alpha Jet
41+06 Dornier/Breguet Alpha Jet
91+62 FWP/Piaggio FWP149D
91+81 FWP/Piaggio FWP149D is this the correct number please?
99+17 Rockwell OV-10B(Z) Bronco
99+29 Rockwell OV-10B(Z) Bronco
99+42 Fiat G91R/3
99+45 Fiat G91R/3
none UH-1D simulator (had 72+14 painted on the back of it)
(80+10) MBB Bo105M
(87+10????) MBB Bo105P
halle 10, inside and outside:
75+01 SE3130 Alouette II
87+92 MBB Bo105P
(56+16) / "PL+409" Dornier Do27
96+49 Mill Mi-24D
PB-132 SE3130 Alouette II does anyone know the id of this please?
Halle 6:
75+51 SE3130 Alouette II
78+02 (1006) NH90 also in here
Halle 2:
unknown Bell/Dornier UH-1D Huey (dismantled)
static:
86+28 MBB Bo105P
86+49 MBB Bo105P
87+28 MBB Bo105P
87+51 MBB Bo105P
87+62 MBB Bo105P

The static contained:
50+83 C-160D Transall
5D-HU Bell 212
74+03 Tigre
78+07 NH Industries NH90 (1030)
78+08 NH Industries NH90 (1035)
78+29 NH Industries NH90 (1119)
82+56 Eurocopter EC635
82+65 Eurocopter EC635
87+55 MBB Bo105P
3E-KG / 1461 SA316B Alouette III
D-3394 / TU
D-3484 / B
D-EBBB Piper L18C Super Cub
D-EFVP Cessna 17
D-EKAP Piper PA28-
D-HDSI MBB/Kawasaki BK117
D-HDSM MBB Bo105Cb
D-HEGK Aérospatiale AS332L1 Super Puma
D-HLTF Eurocopter EC155
D-HSHC Eurocopter EC120
D-HVBW Eurocopter EC135
D-HZSP Eurocopter EC135
NH-221 NH Industries NH90 (1262)
T-352 Eurocopter EC635
T-354 Eurocopter EC635
Inside halle 1:
82+53 Eurocopter EC635
Inside halle 10:
82+54 Eurocopter EC635
Inside halle 7 (closed)
unknown NH Industries NH90
unknown NH Industries NH90
Inside halle 9 (partially open)
unknown NH Industries NH90

At the flightlines were:
3E-KJ / 1346 SA316B Alouette III
71+11 Bell/Dornier UH-1D Huey
72+79 Bell/Dornier UH-1D Huey
74+42 Tigre
78+21 NH Industries NH90
79+09 NH Industries NH90
87+16 MBB Bo105P (special c/s, flew the demo)
86+.. MBB Bo105 (left around noon)
84+14 Sikorsky/WVF VH-53G
82+52 Eurocopter EC635
82+57 Eurocopter EC635
82+60 Eurocopter EC635
82+64 Eurocopter EC635
151754 / 24 Hkp15 (Augusta A109)
D-HVBQ Eurocopter EC135
D-HVBX Eurocopter EC135
T-362 Eurocopter EC635

Flying only:
54+01 Airbus A400M
50+49 C-160D Transall

With kind regards,
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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marco70 wrote:I can confirm the Bo105P 86+39
Thank you, I come to the same conclusion as well. Now only the mystery hangar. :lol:

Interesting to see that source 3 actually also provided the constr. nos, which could indicate he visited the hangar and checked them out well. In his favor/defence, the con. nos of 78+22 & 78+27 are not mentioned yet on the Scramble and ODW-databases.
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The halle 7 NH90s were reported as 78+22,78+25 and 78+26 (with some prompting for the last one) by someone in the Bundeswehr.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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Le Addeur noir wrote:The halle 7 NH90s were reported as 78+22,78+25 and 78+26 (with some prompting for the last one) by someone in the Bundeswehr.
Are we all sure we're talking about the same hangar? Hangar 9 was the new build hangar between hangar 10 (also a new one) and hangar 4 on the static side. Hangar 7 was off limits and accross the flightline at the same height of the HKP15.

In hangar 7 at least one NH90 could be seen between the doors on the far left side, which were slightly open at least in the afternoon.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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Buccaneer S.2B wrote: (87+10????) MBB Bo105P
PB-132 SE3130 Alouette II
D-EBBB Piper L18C Super Cub
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For the Bo-105 I came to the same conclusion. It was a P-model demodified and stickers and some stencils showed s/n 110.

For the Alouette I can only find a previous coding, which belonged to 75+21. Could this be the same one restored to the old tradition?

The L-18 had a previous mil-ID being 96+07
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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David Moore wrote:
Buccaneer S.2B wrote: 71+97 Bell/Dornier UH-1D Huey I read 71+97 too. The photo on Eurodemobbed shows 71+98 on the other side of the boom. which one is correct, please?
91+81 FWP/Piaggio FWP149D is this the correct number please?
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71+98 should be correct with the tailboom belonging to 71+94 according to EMOOS. Also 91+81 should be correct and present since at least 2012.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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We asked the guy who was standing with the NH-90 on display in front of Halle 9. Several more people asked him and when he was talking to us he called someone who gave him the following numbers: 78+25/1043, 78+22/1112 and 78+27/1118. He wrote it down for other spotters.
I also think to know how 78+26 became part of this discussion. The NH-90's inside carried some orange ribbons (don't know the right word) and on these ribbons you could read 78+22 and 78+27. on the ground there was an enginecover with a ribbon that was marked 78+26.

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg

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Sjoerd wrote:
Le Addeur noir wrote:The halle 7 NH90s were reported as 78+22,78+25 and 78+26 (with some prompting for the last one) by someone in the Bundeswehr.
Are we all sure we're talking about the same hangar? Hangar 9 was the new build hangar between hangar 10 (also a new one) and hangar 4 on the static side. Hangar 7 was off limits and accross the flightline at the same height of the HKP15.

In hangar 7 at least one NH90 could be seen between the doors on the far left side, which were slightly open at least in the afternoon.
At the end off the show one NH-90 (79+09?) from the flightline was towed into it, unfortunate the left one still was not readable on the tailboom.
The NH90 have a specific mark. on the left weelbox it have a grey 'nose' plate.
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