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Re: NATO TIGER MEET 2016 Zaragoza

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fox300 wrote:Hi there again

I have a question that probably any tiger member would be able to answer; how is each squadron financing the special painting schemes? I mean, is all paid by each country defence budget or each squadron has a kind of "private" money pocket which is financed with airshows participations for example?

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Fox, I really doubt you'll get a straight answer. But ask any Tiger crew person. Who knows? I personally think it's "all of the above", with perhaps an additional possibility of "partners" (newish name for sponsors).

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Today, morning wave used 30L for take-off and both 30L and R for landing; in the afternoon wave, only landings on 30R were from the Spanish Hornets (and some transports and a Ryanair civvie)
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Re: NATO TIGER MEET 2016 Zaragoza

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dverhees wrote:
fox300 wrote:Hi there again

I have a question that probably any tiger member would be able to answer; how is each squadron financing the special painting schemes? I mean, is all paid by each country defence budget or each squadron has a kind of "private" money pocket which is financed with airshows participations for example?

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Fox, I really doubt you'll get a straight answer. But ask any Tiger crew person. Who knows? I personally think it's "all of the above", with perhaps an additional possibility of "partners" (newish name for sponsors).

Cheers, Don
Thanks Don for your answer. I will ask them tomorrow.

This is something that I have been always wondering myself as I would like to have a proper answer for all that people who is always claiming against this kind of exercise.

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Re: NATO TIGER MEET 2016 Zaragoza

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Anyone with a "schedule" for saturdays "show"?
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Tigerspoon wrote:Anyone with a "schedule" for saturdays "show"?
Hi Tigerspoon..Please, check my post on 19thMay 02:01
It seems is going to be the same except for the addon of the two Rafale at 1345
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The Rafales did an impressive show... as did the others. It was a long time ago that I witnessed demos where the display line was SO close to the public area..
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A "small" log of aircraft noted between the 19th and 21st of May.


Ala 15 EF-18M ;

15-01/C.15-14 , 15-02/C.15-15 , 15-03/C.15-16 , 15-09/C.15-22
15-10/C.15-23 , 15-11/C.15-24 , 15-12/C.15-25 , 15-13/C.15-26
15-17/C.15-30 , 15-18/C.15-31 , 15-22/C.15-35 , 15-24/C.15-37
15-25/C.15-38 , 15-26/C.15-39 , 15-27/C.15-40 , 15-28/C.15-41
15-30/C.15-43 , 15-31/C.15-47 , 15-33/C.15-67 , 15-34/C.15-64
+1 ( in hangar )

EF-18BM ;

15-70/CE.15-01 , 15-72/CE.15-03 , 15-74/CE.15-5 , 15-75/CE.15-06
15-76/CE.15-07


Ala 31 (K)C-130H ;

31-03/T.10-03 , 31-05/T.10-08 , 31-06/T.10-09 , 31-52/TK.10-07
31-53/TK.10-11 , 31-54/TK.10-12 , 31-01/TL.10-01 , +1 ( in hangar )


Visitors ;

C-295M 35-41/T.21-03 Ala 35
C-212A1 72-01/T.12B-13 , 72-11/T.12B-65 721 Esc
C-212 +1 ( arrived 21st )
C-212DE1 54-11/T.12D-74 CLAEX
Ce-560 403-11/TR.20-01 403 Esc
CL-215T 431-17/UD.13-17 431 Esc
C-17A 03 HAW
C-130H CH-03 20 Smd/15 Wg
TBM-700A 104/XJ
Falcon 10MER 101 , 185 57 S
Beech 1900 T-729
Tornado ECR 46+24 , 46+55 Tlg 51
EF-2000 36-21/MM7292 , 36-10/MM7284 36 St
EF-2000 36-02/MM7286 , 36-12/MM7341 36 St
EF-2000 36-25/MM7302 , 36-34/MM7312 36 St
F-16Am 15133 , 15141
F-16Am FA-123


Patrulla Aspa EC-120B ;

78-20/HE.25-1 , 78-22/HE.25-3 , 78-23/HE.25-4 , 78-27/HE.25-8
78-29/HE.25-10 , 78-34/HE.25-15


Patrulla Águila C-101EB ;

79-06/E.25-06 , 79-08/E.25-08 , 79-12/E.25-12 , 79-13/E.25-13
79-14/E.25-14 , 79-19/E.25-19 , 79-28/E.25-28 , 79-29/E.25-87
79-39/E.25-38


NTM participants ;


Tlg 74 EF-2000(T) ;
30+11 , 30+12 , 30+22 , 30+29
30+30 , 30+35 , 30+40 , 30+42
30+25

192 Filo F-16C/D ;
89-0024 , 91-0022 , 92-0014 , 93-0003

31Smd F-16Am/Bm ;
FA-56 , FA-77 , FA-84 , FA-95
FA-102 , FA-114 , FA-118 , FB-20
FA-116

338 Skv F-16Am/Bm ;
286 , 295 , 663 , 664
674 , 692

211 Tl. Jas-39C/D ;
9236 , 9237 , 9245 , 9819

221 LtBVr Mi-35 & Mi-17 ;
3366 , 3370
0839

230 Sqn Puma HC.2 ;
XW214

11 F Rafale M ;
9 , 10 , 19 , 38
43 , 44 , 45

3 Rhc Sa-342M ;
GAL/3862 , GBY/4145

4 F E-2C ;
2 , 3

Mh.59 Jas-39C ;
34 , 35 , 37 , 40
41

GFD Learjet 35 ;
D-CARL

ECE 01.030 Mirage 2000D ;
627/30-JO , 642/30-IE , 675/3-JI , 683/3-IV

6 Elt. F-16C/D ;
4052 , 4055 , 4059 , 4060
4082 , 4084

Flst 11 F/A-18C ;
J-5004 , J-5006 , J-5009 , J-5011
J-5013

21 Gruppo AB-212ICO ;
9-60/MM81160 , 9-61/MM81161

335 Mira F-16C/D ;
005 , 013 , 019 , 028

NAEWF E-3A ;
LX-N90451 , LX-N90455

Ala 14 EF-2000 ;
14-06/C.16-39 , 14-09/C.16-44 , 14-12/C.16-48 , 14-13/C.16-49
14-14/C.16-50

313 Sqn F-16Am ; ( left early on the 20th )
J-136 , J-616


Several flights, both pax and cargo took place into the civil part.
Not to be mentioned in my log. Updates may follow in due time .... ( Lots of pictures to sort out :wink: )
* ECE 01.030 borrowed some jets.


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I have about the same list; minor differences:
C-17 was from Papa/HAW
FA-116 was also there in the Belgian line-up
TL.10-01/31-01 C-130H-30 was towed out of a hangar just before 31-05 was towed in on the 19th
Eufi 30+25 was also there in the German line-up
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Reading from photos (but I have some 3/4 frontal shots) the gazelle GAL looks like 3852(probably this) or 3862... GBY/4145 (99,99% sure)

If someone was in front of the taxi when they were taking off probably should read the numbers much better then me.

Instead there was a Belgium F16 with the patch over the serial... Which serial it was? FA84 or FA95?

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tonno1970 wrote:Reading from photos (but I have some 3/4 frontal shots) the gazelle GAL looks like 3852(probably this) or 3862... GBY/4145 (99,99% sure)

If someone was in front of the taxi when they were taking off probably should read the numbers much better then me.

Instead there was a Belgium F16 with the patch over the serial... Which serial it was? FA84 or FA95?

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FA-95 is the one.

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The "patched up" Belgian was FA-95. On the other side of the fin, the sticker covered "FA" only :)

The gazelle serials have been tied up with the codes for some years now, so 3862/GAL and 4145/GBY are correct.
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Some more corrections in the log posted above:
Aguila C101EB with code "79-29" was E.25-87 (photoproof), not E.25-29. It carried special markings for the 30th anniversary of Patrulla Aguila.
Aspa EC.120B with code "78-27" was HE.25-8, not -9.
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Were both 30+22 and 30+25 in Zaragoza? I have seen logs with either the one or the other ...
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frank kramer wrote:Some more corrections in the log posted above:
Aguila C101EB with code "79-29" was E.25-87 (photoproof), not E.25-29. It carried special markings for the 30th anniversary of Patrulla Aguila.
Aspa EC.120B with code "78-27" was HE.25-8, not -9.

Thanks Frank,

For helping to get the log complete !
I still have a lot of things to sort out/check serials ....
Your C101 & EC120, has been a typo ( my bad ... ) :wink:


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F17_114PM wrote:Were both 30+22 and 30+25 in Zaragoza? I have seen logs with either the one or the other ...
I have both ships on my memorycards... at least on saturday, both were there.
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