Belgian Defence leases 2 Falcon 7Xs, white fleet sold. No more Falcon 20/900, Embraers, etc.

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Belgian Defence leases 2 Falcon 7Xs, white fleet sold. No more Falcon 20/900, Embraers, etc.

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https://www.hln.be/nieuws/binnenland/re ... t~a3eaeef2
13 september 2019
10u24

Last week the government decided to rent two Falcon 7X aircraft,
luxury aircraft from the French aircraft manufacturer Dassault,
with complete discretion to guarantee the future of the "white fleet".

The white fleet of Defense consists of passenger aircraft that are used for,
among other things, flights from the king, ministers and members of European institutions.

The two rented aircraft must serve to replace the outdated and completed white fleet.

The Falcon 7X is labeled as the "Rolls Royce" from the Dassault range.
The two aircraft are rented for 12 years, according to a decision of the Council of Ministers last Friday.
However, that decision was not disclosed.

Defense Minister Didier Reynders confirms to Belga
that the government has signed a lease contract of 124 million euros for the aircraft.

This is a 'wet lease' agreement whereby only the aircraft are rented without a crew,
analogous to the Airbus A321 that Defense has been leasing from the Portuguese company Hi Fly for a few years.

According to Reynders, the Defense organization can save 40 million euros in 12 years. :roll:

The four Embraer aircraft that are still in service at Melsbroek will be sold for around 15 million euros.

As far as the Falcon 900 is concerned,
according to Reynders it is only good for a museum or for demolition.
https://www.aviation24.be/military-airc ... ite-fleet/
The remaining Embraer’s (two ERJ 135 and two ERJ 145) will be phased out and sold for around €15 million.
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Re: Sep2019: Belgian Defence leases two Falcon 7X's for 12 y

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The HLN article actually states it is a dry lease. Also funny how both articles mention different Falcons.
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Re: Sep2019: Belgian Defence leases two Falcon 7X's for 12 y

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Gietje wrote:The HLN article actually states it is a dry lease. Also funny how both articles mention different Falcons.
"Lost in Translation",
Google-machine translation style... :twisted: :mrgreen:
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Belgian Defence to lease two Falcon 7X's, replacing white fl

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https://www.aviation24.be/military-airc ... leet-deal/
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https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20191009_04653728
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https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/b ... 70064.html
Het kabinet van Reynders wilde gisteren nog niet zeggen hoe het verder moet met het miljoenencontract.
Nu meldt Defensie dat het 'de intentie heeft om een nieuwe, meer gedetailleerde beslissing over de toekenning op te maken'.
'Lastercampagne'

Bij Abelag wisten ze gisteren nog niet dat de regering haar oorspronkelijke beslissing wilde intrekken.
'We weten dat Flying Group een procedure aanspande voor de Raad van State.
Dat deed het ook al voor andere contracten, telkens zonder resultaat.

Dit begint op een lastercampagne te lijken',
stelt Griet Mostincx, de operationeel directeur van Abelag Aviation
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Re: Belgian Defence to lease 2 Falcon 7Xs, replacing white f

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The Royal Netherlands Air Force has a Gulf IV on sale! :lol:
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Re: Belgian Defence to lease 2 Falcon 7Xs, replacing white f

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looks like the contract for 2 Falcon 7X is on again, exptected delivery is for March 2020.
these will replace the remaining Embraer ERJ-135/145LR's

https://www.hln.be/nieuws/binnenland/de ... ~a8db393a/
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Re: Belgian Defence to lease 2 Falcon 7Xs, replacing white f

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Today OO-LUM is expected at Brussel. Is this one of the new Falcons?
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According to a message at aviation24.be it is


https://www.aviation24.be/forums/viewto ... 807f5e7466
flown in: Things with wings
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witje wrote:Today OO-LUM is expected at Brussel. Is this one of the new Falcons?
Hmmm... if OO-LUM is 1 of the 2, what would the odds be that the second will be OO-FAE? :wink: :roll:
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frank kramer wrote:
witje wrote:Today OO-LUM is expected at Brussel. Is this one of the new Falcons?
Hmmm... if OO-LUM is 1 of the 2, what would the odds be that the second will be OO-FAE? :wink: :roll:

Registration OO-LUM and OO-FAE were already confirmed several months ago.

On the following FB-page a series of pictures were published of the aircraft while on approach to Kleine Brogel this afternoon.... photographed from one our members garden !

https://www.facebook.com/pg/lowapproach/posts/

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Re: Belgian Defence to lease 2 Falcon 7Xs, replacing white f

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Hi Laurent, that news had not reached me.. honestly ! Glad to see that my guess proved a fact,though. Two more interesting birds to hunt for :-)
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Nothing military to see in this jet unfortunately...
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Re: Belgian Defence to lease 2 Falcon 7Xs, replacing white f

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michel N wrote:Nothing military to see in this jet unfortunately...
they are leased for a period of 12 years, so i think these will recieve a new paintjob once they become operational.
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OO-LUM Dassault Falcon 7X c/n 4 ex F-HFAS, N570RF, F-HDPO, VH-JSZ, F-WWUA (YOC 2006)
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RobertMB wrote:OO-LUM Dassault Falcon 7X c/n 4 ex F-HFAS, N570RF, F-HDPO, VH-JSZ, F-WWUA (YOC 2006)
HB-JSZ iso VH-JSZ.
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