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Re: The 'black' USAF C-32Bs

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Shrike wrote:I am also following the secretive C-32Bs. When ADS-B offered the list of a/c ( unfortunately deleted late September 2019) I found out that once last year 25001, 09001 and 96143 were all noted the same time over different locations in the US. On another occasion 24452, 09001 and 96143 were all in the air, and indeed also 25001 and 09001 were seen at the same time. So according to ADS-B there should be indeed 4 different a/c. Interestingly 86001 - which I photographed at RST in January 2016 - has never been noted by me in the list. Finally one clarification: the writing as "02-5001" is surely not correct as I noted 25001 in RST already visually in November 2000! These are "bogus " serials and not FY-serials. I maintain that this applies also to all other C-32B-serials.
The operator of 00-9001 and 02-4452 is the NJ ANG at KWRI. That is clear-cut and in the open.

As for 02-5001,99-6143 and (98)-6006 things become much murkier. These three, if they have military designations could be C-32Cs. The New Jersey pair ( AFAIK C-32Bs) are air-refuellable, it is unlikely the others are, due to the short(ish) flights they make with fuel stops. Certainly N226G is one or more of these airframes. Another L3 Corp. B757 is also likely to be a candidate for this role.

The fact these have full ADS-B is strange, as are their predictable RCH callsigns. The operator of them maybe realises they have been 'smoked out' and is being more open about them these days.
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Ajaxfever wrote:another C-32 just appeared on this side of the Atlantic. RCH585 (02-5001 according to ads-b) approaching Rota.

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michel N wrote:This morning the 99-6143 visited Ramstein, logged both as VDR20 and Reach 584.
According to s a message on Fightercontrol N226G was logged as VDR20 january 1st from Egypt heading towards Jordan
Unfortunately, this report of N226G is inaccurate and is due to a database error.

The same post on FighterControl quotes the hex code as being AE0446 - which, of course, is a military hex and is that associated with 99-6143.

However, I will admit that N226G is the airframe usually associated with 99-6143.

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I saw a fpl for 99-6143 for 4-1-2020 routing LGAV-ETAR-KBGR as RCH584. It should have been on ground at Ramstein from 09:40 till 11:20. Visual confirmation welcome though!
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JetStar2 wrote:I saw a fpl for 99-6143 for 4-1-2020 routing LGAV-ETAR-KBGR as RCH584. It should have been on ground at Ramstein from 09:40 till 11:20. Visual confirmation welcome though!
It was confirmed with pictures on flugzeugforum.
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About 30min ago I had 02-5001 on sbs coming from Germany. Now northwest of Cardiff.
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T7 wrote:About 30min ago I had 02-5001 on sbs coming from Germany. Now northwest of Cardiff.
On her way from Ramstein to Bangor. She flew Athens to Germany this morning.
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Following the C-32B's has become a little bit more challenging without the searchable history at ADSB-exchange, but setting up an alert in a certain radar-app by hexcode and browsing for recent pics can still give a limited idea of what's going on; 09001 and 24452 have been operating out of McGuire as usual, but maybe not as much overseas as they used to do. Mainly (9)96143 and (0)25001 have been operating out of Eglin last year with an increased activity flying to the Middle East in turns as of last month or so (how come?). Online pics show both Comco regs N226G and N610G still pop up every now and then as well. (9)86006 has not been seen since may 2018.

Until mid 2013, 96143 and 25001 were seen on both frames associated with N226G and N610G. Then 96143 was N226G, 86006 was N610G and 25001 was used on both frames. It seems that since the "disappearance" of 86006 in may 2018 96143 remained N226G, and 25001 always was N610G....but better make sure to check their visual differences when you see them..

The extra antenna on top of the forward fuselage was probably added during a ~200 day stay at Greenville-Mayors, on N226G/96143 between january and august 2018, and on N610G/25001 between february and august 2019.

Oh, and there has been quite some evidence that all frames do air-to-air refuelling. Both on training missions from their bases as well as during international missions. The Eglin frames just have less visual lining around their intake.

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Re: The 'black' USAF C-32Bs

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Unknown C-32B on ADS-B calling RCH588 out of Ramstein on 28 June. Hex code AE0446. Currently at 21:55 BST in UK airspace.
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That code should be 99-6143.
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ETAR 28/06/2020 C-32B RCH588 99-6143 ex N226G from ORER to KBGR via ETAR fuel stop departed 21:45L

pictures from take off you can see here...

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RCH589 Arrived Mildenhall 21:08 1/7/2020 "25001" 12/19 windows and thin kick strips
should make it "N610G"
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Hi Folks,

this year I saw and photograph 3 different serials... 99-6143 and 02-5001 several times in RS... and yesterday in SP 02-4452 FEST Airframe which arrive as Hulk 79 from LERT.

here seen a small series had luck with the weather in a dramatic way...

I believe there must be minimum 4 different airframes and that 99-6143 and 02-5001 are not swoping the serials anymore... I wished always I coud come so near to check the datablock for the MSN Numbers... hehehe

I hope one day we solve that riddle to 100% ...

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00-9001 (hex AE0443) flew as BORG71 from McGuire to Ramstein yesterday (30th)

Today 99-6143 (hex AE0433) was tracked from above the Black Sea (so likely coming from the Middle East) via Ramstein and then as RCH582 to the US
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But the 99-6143 was visually confirmed as 02-5001 at Ramstein!
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