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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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From what spot on the scramble airfield guide you can have a look on the helicopters
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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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marco70 wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 18:49 From what spot on the scramble airfield guide you can have a look on the helicopters
From spot 1 you can see all helicopters parked in a row. All of them are facing southwest.
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michel N wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 18:47
patrick dirksen wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 18:20
Fokker side.
They are parked on the 131 EMVO side.
Iene, miene, mutte.....? :lol:

Believe me it’s the EMVO side. Or they have magically changed position after I left at 17:00 or so

It’s the 07 side so that’s the fokker side if that’s what people ask?
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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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Thx for the fast and clear answer
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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 16:49 Thanks all for today! Sadly I couldn't be there, but based on all observations (visual and ADS-B) I end up at the following list for today:

R20861 formation (09:10lt)
HH-60M 16-20861
HH-60M 16-20864

R20810 formation (09:17lt)
UH-60M 16-20810
HH-60M 16-20865

R26436 formation (09:54lt)
UH-60L 92-26436
UH-60L 93-26480
UH-60L 93-26510
UH-60L 93-26525

R08182 formation (10:10lt)
CH-47F 15-08182
CH-47F 15-08177
CH-47F 15-08180
CH-47F 15-08183
CH-47F 16-08478
CH-47F 13-08433

R43037 formation (10:24lt)
AH-64E 14-03037
AH-64E 18-03206
AH-64E 14-03030
AH-64E 12-09039

R20862 (10:26lt)
HH-60M 16-20862

R20868 formation (14:07lt)
HH-60M 16-20868
HH-60M 16-20867
HH-60M 16-20869
HH-60M 16-20856
HH-60M 16-20866

R08174 formation (14:16lt)
CH-47F 15-08174
CH-47F 13-08138
CH-47F 16-08217
CH-47F 15-08463
CH-47F 15-08181?

R09002 formation? (14:20lt)
AH-64E 10-09002
AH-64E 14-03021
AH-64E 18-03200
AH-64E 16-03098

R26828 formation (14:44lt)
UH-60L 98-26828
UH-60L 94-26565
UH-60L 92-26575
UH-60L 98-26817

R63083 (16:53lt)
AH-64E 16-03083

Corrections or additions are welcome!
Most of the above formations I can confirm but can you confirm 20864 in the first formation?? In mine notes from Vlissingen I have HH-60M 08-20864 departing at 14:29LT together with 26817, 26575 and 26828.

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Fink123 wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:16
michel N wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 18:47
patrick dirksen wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 18:20



Iene, miene, mutte.....? :lol:

Believe me it’s the EMVO side. Or they have magically changed position after I left at 17:00 or so

It’s the 07 side so that’s the fokker side if that’s what people ask?
Looking from the 25 runway they are righthand side of the runway. Which is why I say EMVO side :)
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Eric van Lisdonk wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:34 Most of the above formations I can confirm but can you confirm 20864 in the first formation?? In mine notes from Vlissingen I have HH-60M 08-20864 departing at 14:29LT together with 26817, 26575 and 26828.

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Hi Eric. Are you sure? 16-20864 was seen at WOE in the first formation.
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NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:47
Eric van Lisdonk wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:34 Most of the above formations I can confirm but can you confirm 20864 in the first formation?? In mine notes from Vlissingen I have HH-60M 08-20864 departing at 14:29LT together with 26817, 26575 and 26828.

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Hi Eric. Are you sure? 16-20864 was seen at WOE in the first formation.
Maybe somebody at the fence at the 07 side photographed the first 2 Blackhawks?? These are the first 2 parked on the taxitrack. Number1 is 861 number 2 is 26565 if i'm correct??
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Eric van Lisdonk wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 20:00
NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:47
Eric van Lisdonk wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:34 Most of the above formations I can confirm but can you confirm 20864 in the first formation?? In mine notes from Vlissingen I have HH-60M 08-20864 departing at 14:29LT together with 26817, 26575 and 26828.

Grtz,
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Hi Eric. Are you sure? 16-20864 was seen at WOE in the first formation.
Maybe somebody at the fence at the 07 side photographed the first 2 Blackhawks?? These are the first 2 parked on the taxitrack. Number1 is 861 number 2 is 26565 if i'm correct??
No not correct. The first 2 are HH-60M's.
I can also confirm the last formation blackhawk are all 4 UH-60L's. No serials, sorry.

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NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 16:49R26436 formation (09:54lt)
UH-60L 92-26436
UH-60L 93-26480
UH-60L 93-26510
UH-60L 93-26525
They arrived as 4 speaking elements, so no formation.
NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 16:49R20868 formation (14:07lt)
R20856 formation

NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 16:49R08174 formation (14:16lt)
R08463 formation

NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 16:49CH-47F 15-08181?
Correct

NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 16:49R09002 formation? (14:20lt)
R43021 formation

NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 16:49R26828 formation (14:44lt)
R26565 formation
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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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Eric van Lisdonk wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 20:00
NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:47
Eric van Lisdonk wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:34 Most of the above formations I can confirm but can you confirm 20864 in the first formation?? In mine notes from Vlissingen I have HH-60M 08-20864 departing at 14:29LT together with 26817, 26575 and 26828.

Grtz,
Eric
Hi Eric. Are you sure? 16-20864 was seen at WOE in the first formation.
Maybe somebody at the fence at the 07 side photographed the first 2 Blackhawks?? These are the first 2 parked on the taxitrack. Number1 is 861 number 2 is 26565 if i'm correct??
20861 is parked at spot 1
20864 is parked at spot 2
26565 is parked at spot 33 (from west to east)
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Luamax wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 20:18
Eric van Lisdonk wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 20:00
NL.Aviation wrote: 29 Nov 2021, 19:47

Hi Eric. Are you sure? 16-20864 was seen at WOE in the first formation.
Maybe somebody at the fence at the 07 side photographed the first 2 Blackhawks?? These are the first 2 parked on the taxitrack. Number1 is 861 number 2 is 26565 if i'm correct??
20861 is parked at spot 1
20864 is parked at spot 2
26565 is parked at spot 33 (from west to east)
Thanks for the confirmation!! I mixed some things up I see. 26565 was the leader in the UH-60L formation indeed.
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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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All H64s and H60s filed seperate flightplans.

The H60s all used R- follewed by the last five digits of the serial. So R20861.
The H64s all used R- followed by last digit of FY and last four digits of the serial. So R43030.

The H47s filed as two formations.
R08182A 182
R08182B 177
R08182C 180
R08182D 183
R08182E 478
R08182F 433
R08463A 463
R08463B 181
R08463C 174
R08463D 138
R08463E 217

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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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Mine notes from the afternoon departures from Vlissingen are (in order of departure):
Dep 13:43LT R20856 5x H-60 (20856, 20868, 20867, 20869, 20866)
Dep 13:53LT R43021 4x H-64 (43021, 63098, 09002, 83200)
Dep 14:03LT R08463 5x H-47 (15-08463, 15-08181, 15-08174, 13-08138, 16-08217)
Dep 14:29LT R26565 4x H-60 (26565, 26575, 26828, 26817)
We leave at 15:00LT for Gilze. AH-64E 16-03083 was still on the ramp.
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Re: EHWO 29-11-2021 MIL

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So to put this at rest once and for all: they are at the NW side of the base. Which is north of the runway, so some say the 131 EMVO side, and it is the west side of base, so some say at the Fokker side.... :-D

And now the million dollar question is: when will they move on towards Germany? Pretty soon I'm afraid?
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