Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Had a base visit here in 1996 ( March 8 ), but perhaps it's not very likely they flew the same helo's more than a decade later:

N911NA B747 SR46 NASA
138334/KB T28B NX394W
(1A242271) MiG15UTI NX271JM
69 16428 AH1S WAATS
69 16233 OH58A Az NG
71 20631 OH58A Az NG
71 20722 OH58A Az NG
87 24640 UH60A 1 285AVN
90 0315 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0321 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0322 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0323 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0325 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0326 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0334 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0336 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0417 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0418 AH64A 1 285AVN
90 0420 AH64A 1 285AVN

Needless to say, all fiscal years were read off from the data blocks.
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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FWIW, these were noted on 13 March 2009.
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	68-16769		H-058	OH-58C	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		68-16853		H-058	OH-58C	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	69-16204		H-058	OH-58C	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	69-16206		H-058	OH-58C	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		69-16208		H-058	OH-58C	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	69-16347		H-058	OH-58C	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		69-16373	73D	H-058	OH-58A	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	70-15143		H-058	OH-58A	PRESERVED
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	70-15309		H-058	OH-58A	C/3-140 AVN Det1 AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		70-15424		H-058	OH-58A	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR		70-15425		H-058	OH-58A	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR		70-15456		H-058	OH-58A+	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	70-15517		H-058	OH-58A+	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	70-15578		H-058	OH-58A+	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		71-20346		H-058	OH-58A+	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		71-20456		H-058	OH-58A	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	71-20465		H-058	OH-58A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	71-20560		H-058	OH-58A+	C/3-140 AVN Det1 AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	71-20698		H-058	OH-58A+	C/3-140 AVN Det1 AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		71-20727		H-058	OH-58A+	C/3-140 AVN Det1 AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		72-21081		H-058	OH-58C	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		72-21332		H-058	OH-58A	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	72-21343		H-058	OH-58A+	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		72-21416		H-058	OH-58A	GIA
UNITED KINGDOM	AR	PHOTO	ZJ169		        H-064 APACHE	APACHE AH1	3/4 RGT
UNITED KINGDOM	AR	PHOTO	ZJ174		        H-064 APACHE	APACHE AH1	3/4 RGT
UNITED KINGDOM	AR	PHOTO	ZJ180		        H-064 APACHE	APACHE AH1	3/4 RGT
UNITED KINGDOM	AR	PHOTO	ZJ195		        H-064 APACHE	APACHE AH1	3/4 RGT
UNITED KINGDOM	AR	PHOTO	ZJ208		        H-064 APACHE	APACHE AH1	3/4 RGT
UNITED KINGDOM	AR	PHOTO	ZJ209		        H-064 APACHE	APACHE AH1	3/4 RGT
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	00-05174		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	A/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	00-05188		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	00-05202		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	00-05204		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	00-05223		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	B/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	00-05228		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	00-05229		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
SINGAPORE	AF	PHOTO	99-02052		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	PEACE VANGUARD DET
SINGAPORE	AF	PHOTO	99-02053		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	PEACE VANGUARD DET
SINGAPORE	AF		99-02055		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	PEACE VANGUARD DET
SINGAPORE	AF	PHOTO	99-02056		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	PEACE VANGUARD DET
SINGAPORE	AF		99-02057		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	PEACE VANGUARD DET
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	01-05236		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	A/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	01-05237		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	B/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	01-05239		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	B/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	01-05242		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	01-05275		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	88-00238		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	88-00253		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	88-00258		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		88-00263		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	89-00210		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	89-00215		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	89-00222		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	89-00234		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	89-00247		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	90-00286		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	90-00311		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	90-00315		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		90-00337		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		90-00418		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	WAATS AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		91-00120		H-064 APACHE	AH-64A	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	96-05012		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	B/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	96-05016		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	A/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	96-05019		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	97-05026		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	B/1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	97-05034		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	97-05041		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR		98-01708		H-064 APACHE	GAH-64A	GIA
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	98-05061		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	98-05064		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	1-285 AVN AZ NG
UNITED STATES	AR	PHOTO	99-05142		H-064 APACHE	AH-64D	A/1-285 AVN AZ NG
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Most excellent, thanks for posting!
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Maybe this parking overview from March-8th 2009 will help too. If needed, I can supply additional photos for referencing, or e.g. matching some colour schemes.

@Mark,
Are you perhaps able to confirm the missing RSingAF and AAC Apaches based on their positions?

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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Thanks for the post Sjoerd.

Similar plot to a week before, although a few had moved around, and no Singaporeans around. We only saw seven HU-16s, N117FB isn't noticeable in any photos.
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Dont suppose Sjoerd (or anyone else) has a similar park plan for 22Feb12? I can tell you what type was where but ole' Mr 200mm was unfit for purpose. There were also 7 HU-16s there then of which N112, 116 & 118 were confirmed. (For the record Row A 5 x OH-58s and 2 x AH-64s, B 2 plus 1, C 7 x AH-64s, D 4 x AH-64s and E also 4
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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I wish I had David, but I got married the day after...and you probably know what that means :roll:
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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747woody wrote:Thanks for the post Sjoerd.

Similar plot to a week before, although a few had moved around, and no Singaporeans around. We only saw seven HU-16s, N117FB isn't noticeable in any photos.
Had another look and found another HU-16 lurking by a hangar close to the main ramp. Could this be the elusive N117FB?! Where is it in your photos Sjoerd?
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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I pictured a group of 7 (probably without N117FB) on the north east side, next to the 2 Neptunes. I do recall seeing one seperately of this group, but I don't have it on picture. Maybe it was someone else in our group who ID'ed it.
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Sjoerd wrote:I pictured a group of 7 (probably without N117FB) on the north east side, next to the 2 Neptunes. I do recall seeing one seperately of this group, but I don't have it on picture. Maybe it was someone else in our group who ID'ed it.
I have a group of seven, with the Neptunes, all identified as per your list, except for N117FB. A quick Google produces a photo of it in Florida in April 2009, and of it at Marana in 1989! However there is another one visible outside the second hangar up from the southern end, and as we departed there was also N51ZD on the ramp (which wasn't there when we arrived!)
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Sjoerd, here's our overview from the 13th. As you can see most are in different positions, so not much help I'm afraid.
Most likely the AAC Apache on E1 is one from row A and was moved while we were inside a hangar as I believe there were only six on TDY.

# are Longbow equipped


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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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Thanks Mark!
The US Army examples had indeed moved around a lot. Still, the RSingAF examples seem to show the same positions (matching the longbow radar). All had the same load out incl. 1 hellfire on each of the the inner lower station, apart from the one on spot E10 which had none (see image below, bottom left)!

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Could you confirm if this matches your pics as well? Also, where there only just five present during your visit (of the eight on strength)? Looking closer to my images, I can confirm now that Apache 92056 was present and still on the same spot (E7). I could ID it from the vertical striping on the left engine cowling, which normally are two black lines, but these had been faded/overpainted.

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The second from below

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One day later at DM AFB

The 2 AAC Apaches on ramp A(lpha) seemed under light maintenance when looking at my pictures.
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The whole album with some more pics, mainly covering the rows A,C & E, are here. It was the only day without sunshine during our 3 week trip, so shooting these from a plane in low light was challanging at the least: https://ibb.co/album/GHJrvK

If anyone can add anything, I would be thankfull.
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Re: Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

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For some kind of reason we didn't take many photos of the Singapore's. None of us has the one on E10, can't remember why.
I have 52, 53 & 56 which all seem to have the same load out as you mention, but this might be standard?
We didn't visit their hangar this time, so can't tell if more were on base.
Checked my photos from 2008 too, but none of them had the longbow radar at that time.

Not much help at all.
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