RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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https://www.pilootenvliegtuig.nl/2024/0 ... aer-c-390/
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https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten ... capaciteit
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https://open.overheid.nl/documenten/809 ... 6721f/file

the President of the House of Representatives
of the States General
Bezuidenhoutseweg 67
2594 AC The Hague
Date June 10, 2024
Concerns D-Brief project 'Replacement of tactical air transport capacity'

Defense intends to
to purchase nine C-390M aircraft together with Austria;
five for the Netherlands and four for Austria.

Staff
There are three aircraft crews per aircraft to support this need
aircraft required, consisting of a captain, a co-pilot and two loadmasters.
defence
must have a total of 15 crews to ensure continuous and efficient deployment of the aircraft
to guarantee.

Industrial participation
The Ministry of Economic Affairs and Climate has made agreements about Industrial
Participation around this project.
Embraer involves various Dutch companies and knowledge institutions
in their supply chains or carries out development projects with them.

Efficiency: by purchasing the C-390M aircraft jointly with Austria
To achieve this, manufacturer Embraer achieves economies of scale in production.
This translates into
a lower price of the devices for both the Netherlands and Austria

In the extreme case, Defense will extend the current operation of the C130 aircraft until 2028.

Schedule
In the B letter I informed your House that the first devices will be replaced from 2026.
This one
timeline proved to be unfeasible due to cooperation with Austria
and negotiations with the
producer.

Embraer is expected to deliver the first device at the end of 2027.
This will follow until the end of 2029
the remaining four devices step by step.

Defense expects to have the
simulators for training in the second half of 2026.
The new unit at Eindhoven air base
will be initially ready for deployment in 2028 (Initial Operational Capability, IOC) with three aircraft.

The unit reaches Full Operational Capability (FOC) status with five
aircraft in 2030.
August 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Am I correct in understanding that the formal contract still has not been signed yet?
michel N wrote: 14 May 2023, 17:29
Alpha Kilo One wrote: 14 May 2023, 17:19 But I nowhere seem to find that they actually ordered them already. Am I right?
Only the selection has been made, the order still has to be signed.
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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It is crazy to admit, but you are right....
Not yet ordered.

They really lost it.
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Working together with Austria might have complicated the process?
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Contract was actually signed today at Farnborough Airshow.
Answers will be questioned.....
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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evhest wrote: 22 Jul 2024, 19:14 Contract was actually signed today at Farnborough Airshow.
Good!
News article here:
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/em ... 75.article
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Good lord.
They took their time!
Amateurs......
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Alpha Kilo One wrote: 22 Jul 2024, 21:38 Good lord.
They took their time!
Amateurs......
What are you trying to say?
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Yeah, what are you failing to say?
Answers will be questioned.....
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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:wink:
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Alpha Kilo One wrote: 23 Jul 2024, 11:59 :wink:
Constructive answer.....
There are quite some vacancies at COMMIT. Maybe you should apply.....
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Canberra TT.18 wrote: 22 Jul 2024, 20:10
evhest wrote: 22 Jul 2024, 19:14 Contract was actually signed today at Farnborough Airshow.
Good!
News article here:
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/em ... 75.article
The article seems to mention 5 KC-390s for the Netherlands, and 4 C-390s for Austria. Defense reports 5 C-390s on https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nieuws/ ... lvoordelen. Anybody with an idea on the actually ordered version?
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Can't find the article this quick but in it , it was mentioned that the KC-390 was easier to operated compared to the (K)C-130 for different tasks and switching of tasks and also less were needed in total. Most probably in cooperation with the ordered H225 for SOF ops.

What' is remarkable is that the Austrians get a refuelling probe. This is not mentioned for the Dutch. Wait and see.

Anyone already got an idea what the Dutch serial letter will be... :D
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Krazy wrote: 23 Jul 2024, 14:57 The article seems to mention 5 KC-390s for the Netherlands, and 4 C-390s for Austria. Defense reports 5 C-390s on https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nieuws/ ... lvoordelen. Anybody with an idea on the actually ordered version?
They are all just called C-390 now, the 'KC-390' designation was dropped by Embraer years ago.
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Re: RNLAF selects C-390M as C-130 replacement

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Fine they chose for Embraer but how do they know there will be less maintenance? This is a new type of aircraft so no comparison possible with other users.
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