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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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J-509 and J-644 were flown from SABCA to Romania today.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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That makes that out of the 42 remaining F-16's (312sq / SABCA / EFTC):

- 16 are at EFTC. The plan was to deliver 18, so 2 to go
- 8 are at SABCA
- 18 were at Volkel. With 6 being delivered to Ukraine on the 16th, 12 remain at Volkel. Out of these original 18, 6 were seen after 16-09-2024, leaving 12 candidates for the first batch of 6 delivered to Ukraine.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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De volgende staan nu op Volkel buiten:
J-006
J-008
J-013
J-062
J-146
J-197
J-512
J-515
J-641

So the six that were delivered from Ukraine should be picked form this list:
J-003 F-16AM 312sq
J-005 F-16AM 312sq
J-014 F-16AM 312sq
J-015 F-16AM 312sq
J-016 F-16AM 312sq
J-017 F-16AM 312sq
J-020 F-16AM 312sq
J-367 F-16AM 312sq
J-514 F-16AM 312sq (at SABCA?)
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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J-020 was seen at Volkel after 16-09-24 on its way back from SABCA
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Arnold ten Pas wrote: 27 Sep 2024, 13:05 J-020 was seen at Volkel after 16-09-24 on its way back from SABCA
J-020 arrived on the 12th from SABCA, do you mean it was seen on Volkel after the 16th?
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I noted that this was seen after the 16-09 based on a picture on one of the FB forums (but I cannot find the picture anymore at the moment). So, now I am not sure anymore..:-)
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So, can we assume that aircraft with a "stickerserial" are earmarked to go to the Ukraine? The ones I have noted wearing such a sticker are the:

J-006 (l/n 27-9)
J-008 (l/n 27-9)
J-013 (l/n 27-9)
J-017 (l/n ?)
J-020 (l/n ?)
J-641 (l/n 27-9)

Anyone else has seen some stickers?
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J-641 flew to SABCA this morning as NAF312, another two flights planned for this week, subject to change..
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Hi Daan. Did you see the J-641 yourself, or only via ADSB? Would like to have a visual confirmation.
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Frank wrote: 01 Oct 2024, 14:53 Hi Daan. Did you see the J-641 yourself, or only via ADSB? Would like to have a visual confirmation.
That's a question I have asked Daan already many times. You have to mention your source Daan, especially when it's about a sensitive topic like the possible supply of F-16's to the Ukraine.
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Thanks for all the updates.

Friday September 30th 2024 was the final flight of 312sq with the F-16, the remaining airframes on Volkel are now marked as stored. The EFTC will soldier on with Dutch registered F-16's until the end of 2025 so I guess still not fully fased out from the Royal Netherlands Air Force.

ImageF-16 Farewell Flight Volkel AB The Netherlands by M van de Mheen, on Flickr

Six unknown F-16's left Volkel on the evening of September 16th 2024 towards unknown destination, the 8 potential candidates are marked with a *.

Another 2 F-16's were delivered to the EFTC from SABCA, another 2 are expected to be delivered to reach the announced amount of 18 airframes.

In September one F-16 from Volkel was moved to SABCA, further movements from Volkel to SABCA are expected in October with the J-641 being flown to Charleroi on the 1st of October.

Please find the updates for September below in red, regi between () means that this is not visually confirmed, only ads-b:

Fetești EFTC (9 x F-16AM + 7 x F-16BM)

J-004 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-010 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-018 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-019 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-064 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-067 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-201 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-209 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
J-210 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-366 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-368 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-369 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
(J-509) F-16AM EFTC toned down badge and no tailband? 2024 d/d EFTC 25sep2024 from Charleroi
(J-644) F-16AM EFTC toned down badge 312sq and North Brabantian tailband? 2024 d/d EFTC 25sep2024 from Charleroi

J-646 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-882 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi

Volkel stored (10x F-16AM)

J-003* F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-005* F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-006 F-16AM ex 312sq registration sticker, no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024
J-008 F-16AM ex 312sq registration sticker, no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024
J-013 F-16AM ex 312sq registration sticker, no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024
J-014* F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-015* F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-016* F-16AM ex 312sq registration sticker, no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024
J-017* F-16AM ex 312sq registration sticker, full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-020* F-16AM ex 312sq registration sticker, no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024
J-062 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-146 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-197 F-16AM ex 312sq Farewell Falcon 45 Years c/s 2024
J-367* F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-512 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-515 F-16AM ex 312sq full colour badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
* potential candidate of 6 F-16's with unknown destination which left Volkel on September 16th 2024

SABCA stored (10 x F-16AM)
J-011 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 04sep2024
J-021 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge 312sq and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2023 SABCA Charleroi 14dec2023, wfu 9nov2022
J-055 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge and partial toned down North Brabantian tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 22feb2024
J-060 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 7aug2024
J-136 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 25jan2024, wfu 8dec2023
J-144 F-16AM ex 312sq Cluster afstoot badge and full color KLu roundel, no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 21mar2024, wfu 13apr2022, last testflight 18oct2022
J-508 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 25jan2024
J-514 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 6may 2024
J-516 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 15feb2024
J-641 F-16AM ex 312sq registration sticker, full color badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 01oct2024
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Frank wrote: 01 Oct 2024, 14:53 Hi Daan. Did you see the J-641 yourself, or only via ADSB? Would like to have a visual confirmation.
Photoproof, no eyeball confirm
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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J146 left for SABCA Belgium today according to ADSB
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J-146 + J-008.
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According to ADSB: J-062 and J-515 to SABCA today.
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