Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 08 Jan 2007, 20:40

Hi all,

I visited Baarlo and Kessel today and have two small questions.

Baarlo:
Next to the BMW garage two MiG-23's were parked, the one in the back was 2423 of the Czech AF, the one in the front was not marked, but it looked like it had it's registration on the nose just like the old German AF MiG-23's. According the Scramble DB, 20+08 of the German AF should be stored here. Could this be the one?

Kessel:
Behind the building a lot of aircraft are dumped. Between the F-104's a light grey F-5 lay on it's belly. Couldn't see any markings. Does anyone have any idea which one this might be?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards, Rob.

Otto · Post by **Otto** » 08 Jan 2007, 20:43

Hi Rob,

The F-5 = NF-5A (K-3063)

Tigerspoon · Post by **Tigerspoon** » 08 Jan 2007, 22:05

is it known when the f5 had arrived at kessel ?!?!

pjotrtje · Post by **pjotrtje** » 09 Jan 2007, 09:23

Tigerspoon wrote:is it known when the f5 had arrived at kessel ?!?!

Don't know exactly, but it was also there (for probably some time already) in March 2006.

henkheli · Post by **henkheli** » 09 Jan 2007, 12:38

here is mayby also some good info, the site of the owner of al this planes:

http://www.psaero.com/

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 09 Jan 2007, 13:19

Already had a look at his website.
There are several site with info on this 'museum'.

Still looking for some info on the MiG-23.

Regards, Rob.

henkheli · Post by **henkheli** » 09 Jan 2007, 15:46

there is also at kessel an red Mig-23 mayby is this one now repainted.

DAP · Post by **DAP** » 09 Jan 2007, 16:23

At the moment they do paint a lot of aircraft. Look at the Ugly Lightning at their site

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 09 Jan 2007, 16:42

henkheli wrote:there is also at kessel an red Mig-23 mayby is this one now repainted.

No, the red MiG-23 was still at Kessel.

The one which I saw at Baarlo in company of the 2423, was still wearing it's old camo c/s which looked very East-German to me.

Regards, Rob.

Copter · Post by **Copter** » 09 Jan 2007, 17:11

What's wrong with the Lightning picture ?

Copter

DAP · Post by **DAP** » 09 Jan 2007, 17:20

Copter wrote:What's wrong with the Lightning picture ?

Copter

To glossy

Before:

After

Regards
Dennis

Jorg · Post by **Jorg** » 20 Jan 2007, 22:28

Hi all,

This day we are visit with 6 persons the collection of Piet Smedts at Baarlo and Kessel.
The next planes are there preserved:
outside:
Mig 21M 8909 ex Polisch AF
Mig 21M 1812 ex Polisch AF
Mig 21M 1914 ex Polisch AF
Jaguar GR-3 XX974/FE ex Royal AF 41sq badge
Lightning F-2A XN784 ex Royal AF
Mig 23ML 20+08 ex NVA JG9 badge
Su-22UM-3K 98+16 ex NVA
Su-22M-4 25+41 ex NVA
Mi-8 93+09 ex NVA LTG 62 badge
Br-1150 61+10 ex Marineflieger
Br-1150 61+11 ex Marineflieger MFG3 badge spec.c.s.
Br-1150 61+08 ex Marineflieger only parts no fusselage
G-91R-3 99+05 ex Luftwaffe CONDOR badge
G-91R-3 99+38 ex Luftwaffe CONDOR badge
F-104G 22+90 ex Luftwaffe
GF-4C 64-0745 ex USAF
Mig 23MF 2423 ex Czech AF
F-84F FU-10 ex Belgian AF
Let 410 OK-ADQ
F-27 PH-FCX

inside:

Mig 23 MF 2422 ex Czech AF
Alpha Jet 40+18 ex Luftwaffe
Alpha Jet 40+65 ex Luftwaffe
Alpha Jet 40+52 ex Luftwaffe
F-104G 21+71 ex Luftwaffe JBG 34 badge
Mig 21 UM 24+11 ex NVA
Mirage 3RS R-2107 ex Swiss AF

Kessel:

outside

F-104G 26+72 ex Marineflieger MFG 2 badge
F-104G 25+61 ex Luftwaffe
F-104G 26+30 ex Luftwaffe
F-104G 21+60 ex Luftwaffe WaSLw 10 badge
F-104G 23+01 ex Luftwaffe WTD 61 badge
F-104G ex Luftwaffe no tail no cockpit
Alpha Jet 40+95 ex Luftwaffe
Mig 23ML 20+09 ex NVA red c.s.
Mig 21M 1809 ex Polisch AF
Mig 21M 2007 ex Polisch AF
Mig 21M 1909 ex Polisch AF
Mi-2 B-2910 ex Czech Police
F-84F P-263 ex Netherlands AF LETS badge
NF-5A K-3063 ex Netherlands AF
Saab 91 PH-RLH

inside:

CL-13B JC+240 ex Luftwaffe JG 73 badge

Niederrhein (germany):

F-104G KG+101 ex Luftwaffe

Twisteden (germany):

G-91T-1 MM6356/60-56 ex Italian AF
An-2
Mi-2
Have anyone the numbers of the An-2 and the Mi-2?????????

Greetings Jörg.

hendriks · Post by **hendriks** » 20 Jan 2007, 23:45

Nice log, can you see the aircraft from outside the street ? ( those who are outside ofcourse).

Gr.arie

Copter · Post by **Copter** » 21 Jan 2007, 11:28

Was the Do-27 look-a-like (a sort of Zlin ??) aircraft still at Twisteden ?

Copter

Copter · Post by **Copter** » 21 Jan 2007, 11:39

Dear aviation-friends,

I really don't agree with the message of "KMARRIE".

It is FORBIDDEN to climb over fences to enter someone elses property.

A sign with the text "verboden toegang" is not needed. I think that when someone builds al fence, it is clear that you may not enter this area !!

Even a closed Garden Center is property of someone and you need permission of the owner to enter it.

Because of those stupid people which climb over fences, the aviation enthausiasts get a bad name. I am sorry to say, but I hate these people which don't follow the rules.

So my message is, DO NOT CLIMB OVER FENCES AND DO NOT ENTER SOMEONES PROPORTY WITHOUT PERMISSION !!!!

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