EHRD 22-03-2010 - no An-12

[Backtrack]

This is realy sad. A airport which can't accomodate 1 small An12 due to lack of materials? How low can you ga as an airport?

[adz]

This is realy sad. A airport which can't accomodate 1 small An12 due to lack of materials? How low can you ga as an airport?

Rotterdam is a small airport. I doubt if it will be financially viable to invest in material to handle An-12s at Rotterdam. The 1 time per year that it might be expected........

Gr.
Ard

[chefkok]

I am also very disappointed that the Antonov did go to Amsterdam.
Is there anyone that can tell what kind of special equipment was needed for this plane?

[Stratofreighter]

This is realy sad. A airport which can't accomodate 1 small An12 due to lack of materials? How low can you ga as an airport?

Rotterdam is a small airport. I doubt if it will be financially viable to invest in material to handle An-12s at Rotterdam. The 1 time per year that it might be expected........

Gr.
Ard

Once upon a time (in the late 1990s)... the Balkan Bulgarian Antonov An-12s could almost be considered "residents" at Rotterdam...

So yes, material was certainly available back then!

Tattle Lounge now I guess?

[Backtrack]

This is realy sad. A airport which can't accomodate 1 small An12 due to lack of materials? How low can you ga as an airport?

Rotterdam is a small airport. I doubt if it will be financially viable to invest in material to handle An-12s at Rotterdam. The 1 time per year that it might be expected........

Gr.
Ard

Don't be rediculous. The An12 was designed to operate to the most remote and/or worst equiped airports in de USSR. It's a shame that Rotterdam Airport can't accomodate such a "standard" cargo plane which needs only very basic services.
An Airport that can't accomodate/serve normal airplanes? pfffffff
I can understand if AP doesn't invest in materials to load/unload wide-body cargo jets. But i just can't imagine what kind of equipment they lack to load/unload a An12? And if they lack it. You can always hire (for example) a heavy forklift. Come on you're in the Rotterdam area, there are lots of (shipping business-related) companies who offer materials which can be hired on short notice for short-tem rentals.

[Key]

Tattle Lounge now I guess?

Yes

[MartijnMD11]

An Airport that can't accomodate/serve normal airplanes? pfffffff

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW.........just stop right there: I said the HANDLER did not have the right equipment for loading the AN12, NOT the airport. An airport is not providing equipment like stairs, highloaders, forklifts etcetera. The handler is responsible for their own equipment.
Nontheless: Rotterdam - The Hague airport gave the slots to accomodate the AN12, was it not???

Ciao, MartijnMD11

[Backtrack]

If the (only) handler at Rotterdam airport is not able to load/unload An 12... than the only conclusion could be that the airport is not able to handle this aircraft. Which remains the most rediculous thing i've seen in years.
An airport should be able to provide very basic services to these very basic types of cargo planes. If not than you're not worhty to cary the name "airport" if you can't handle the moste simple airplanes.

[rutger330]

If the (only) handler at Rotterdam airport is not able to load/unload An 12... than the only conclusion could be that the airport is not able to handle this aircraft. Which remains the most rediculous thing i've seen in years.
An airport should be able to provide very basic services to these very basic types of cargo planes. If not than you're not worhty to cary the name "airport" if you can't handle the moste simple airplanes.

well my opion is... in 2007 we also had some AN-12's I believe so it could be. But I don't agree with your simple aircraft, cause a AN-12 need specific things i think basic aircraft discribes more like 737F cause there was a FLYant cargo 737F and it came so and i think those are basic aircraft and AN-12 is more used as a charter aircraft and some airports cannot accomodate that but still Rotterdam is an airport cause they have the basic needs and don't forget ROTTERDAM-THE HAGUE IS NOT A REAL airport for cargo aircraft so don't blame them for not having the right equipment, Schiphol and maastricht are more cargo airports then rotterdam and the last cargo a/c was here on 14-08-2008 as said before the Flyant cargo 737F, that's my opion about it

grt rutger

[Thijs]

The strategy of Rotterdam Airport is to be a business airport (with some charter traffic). So handling companies and other actors act to that. Why should a handling company have equipment for one or maybe two AN-12 which will visit Rotterdam in a year? To keep the spotting community satisfied. A logical decision of the handling company to withdrawn equipment which will only be used one or two times a year.

Thijs

[Aviaphotos]

I can understand if AP doesn't invest in materials to load/unload wide-body cargo jets. But i just can't imagine what kind of equipment they lack to load/unload a An12? And if they lack it. You can always hire (for example) a heavy forklift. Come on you're in the Rotterdam area, there are lots of (shipping business-related) companies who offer materials which can be hired on short notice for short-tem rentals.

Sorry, but I don't agree with you at all!
Maybe the equipment AP has is not suitable for a certain size of cargo? I don't know the size of the cargo the An-12 was supposed fly to Constanta yesterday, but it seems like a good reason.
Why should AP hire equipment AND staff (because they're most likely not qualified to operate the hired equipment), just to load one Antonov 12? It's way to expensive to operate this way.
At for example AMS they have this equipment, because they handle a lot more cargo flights.

You, as an ex Servisair Rotterdam employee, should know better!

Regards,

Pim

[rutger330]

I agree, sorry pim I didn't knew that but yeah it useless to do that and way to much money would be lost

grt rutger

[James]

I really wonder what kind of equipment U r missing in Rotterdam to handle an AN12???????
There is no eqpmnt needed besides a vorklift...or in the worst case a lowerdeck loader backwards to the a/c.
I handeled many AN12's myself so can't imagine that that was the reason that he diverted to Amsterdam.
Dind't it have anything to do with the curfew into RTM for these type of aircraft?
James

[Aviaphotos]

Dind't it have anything to do with the curfew into RTM for these type of aircraft?
James

Nope, it was allowed to operate this flight, no restrictions from the Airport's side.

Regards,

Pim

[Andreotti]

I really wonder what kind of equipment U r missing in Rotterdam to handle an AN12???????
There is no eqpmnt needed besides a vorklift...or in the worst case a lowerdeck loader backwards to the a/c.
James

that is really the reason, there was no equipment availeble at that moment, that's why it divirted to AMS.