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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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Hi Hermolaus,

That's GREAT :shock: news, so the Polish Air Force will indeed participate in TLP 2009-1.
We'll wait and see when they arrive and in the forum you'll see the pictures, that's for sure!
I think for many people they are the highlight of this edition :D
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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Hermolaus wrote: As our Vipers arrival is concerned they, in the number of 3, are to come from EPKS to Belgium today (16 Jan 2009), as participants of TLP 2009-01.
So you mean those Polish vipers are due to arrive today although they will only participate during the last 2 weeks?
Or will they participate as from Monday onwards??
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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perrie wrote:Hi Hermolaus,

That's GREAT :shock: news, so the Polish Air Force will indeed participate in TLP 2009-1.
We'll wait and see when they arrive and in the forum you'll see the pictures, that's for sure!
I think for many people they are the highlight of this edition :D
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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Spine24 wrote:Already on the deck at Florennes!
Looks everything went right - that's a good news, many thanks! :)
perrie wrote:That's GREAT :shock: news, so the Polish Air Force will indeed participate in TLP 2009-1.
We'll wait and see when they arrive and in the forum you'll see the pictures, that's for sure!
I think for many people they are the highlight of this edition :D
I feel proud about your ethusiasm on Polish Vipers, thanks! 8) Yeah, these are really beautifull machines! ;) Can't wait to see these photos, thanks in advance!...
Polleke_NL wrote:So you mean those Polish vipers are due to arrive today although they will only participate during the last 2 weeks?
Or will they participate as from Monday onwards??
They are going to participate from Monday onwards, just as you wrote. But that's all I know as for now. As soon as I get some more info I let all of you know, that's for sure!
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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Forgot to mention, callsign was PLF641.
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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16/01/2009

Arrived this morning :

4082 F-16D-52CF Polish Air Force
4055 F-16C-52CF Polish Air Force
4052 F-16C-52CF Polish Air Force

MM7243 F-16A AMI
MM7259 F-16A AMI
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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Spine24 wrote:Forgot to mention, callsign was PLF641.
Thanks for that. It let me make a small correction to what Letadloaero wrote.
matrix wrote:16/01/2009
Arrived this morning :
4082 F-16D-52CF Polish Air Force
4055 F-16C-52CF Polish Air Force
4052 F-16C-52CF Polish Air Force
[...]
Thanks a lot for the tail numbers - they are very precious for me: good job! Could you also give me, please, the arrival time in ZULU (approximately at least)?
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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The 3 Polish F-16 arrived at about 12h25 local time.

Also noted as new arrival in the afternoon :
MM7248 F-16A AMI
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Questions

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NOt according the planning, but of course these change as you noticed also in this TLP because many aircraft did not show up, while others line the AMX were not in the first draft.

Personally I think these Hercs are here for the still present FAP F-16A but that is pure speculation.
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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Around 11.30LT a Learjet serial 10076 was doing some T & G + Fly by.
Was that a BAF ? or Privat ? Any help welcome.

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Re: TLP 2009-1 Questions

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Polleke_NL wrote:as for the overview, assume (hope) SP stands for Poland ?? (F-16C external assets)
Does external assets mean they won't operate from EBFS ??
Yes, in the overview the first part of the unit is the Air Force, followed by wing ( if present ) and squadron.
Therefore SP is the name of the Polish Air Force.

External Asset means the aircraft act as red air or aggressor, see more info at http://tlp.scramble.nl/tlp-external-support.htm.
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Questions

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maurits wrote:Hi Polleke,

The Polish Vipers are planned for the third and fourth week of the TLP. Expect arrival at Florennes should be Fri 23 Jan. or Mon 26 Jan.

Just wait and see, because the last two editions a lot of no scheduled others planes took part in TLP instead of scheduled units/aircraft.

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Maurits
Indeed, normally, the external assets were planned for the last two weeks.

However, the last week the type of missions like CSAR, with helicopters, there is no urgent need for the externals to act as red air.

Therefore, during the last TLP exercises, some external assets were also planned from week 2 and week 3.

Due to some no-shows on the part of the RAF, during the first week there was a shortage of air-to-air participants.
Which is solved now with the Polish Vipers and the extra Italians as well!
Polleke_NL wrote:
Hermolaus wrote: As our Vipers arrival is concerned they, in the number of 3, are to come from EPKS to Belgium today (16 Jan 2009), as participants of TLP 2009-01.
So you mean those Polish vipers are due to arrive today although they will only participate during the last 2 weeks?
Or will they participate as from Monday onwards??
Yes, they will participate for week 2 and 3.
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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Hi Tom,

That should be an American Gulfstream (C-37A) 01-0076 with c/n 645.

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Re: TLP 2009-1 Participants

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perrie wrote:Hi Tom,

That should be an American Gulfstream (C-37A) 01-0076 with c/n 645.

Regards, Per
Per,
Thank you for the correction :oops: and the info.
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Re: TLP 2009-1 Questions

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The answer to the question if the Polish Vipers have Conformal Tanks on top of their fuselage:

The dual version arrived indeed with CFTs!
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