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Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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I paid a visit to Fassberg between 14:00 and 16:30. It took one hour to get on the base. That's why I missed some flying aircraft. I could not read everything. Who can fill the gaps?

Static
A-400M; 54+23
CH-53; 84+33, 84+37, 84+83
Tornado; 45+69
EF-2000; 31+18
H-145; 76+15
Tiger; 74+13, 74+15
Tigre; nn
EC135; 82+54
F-4F; 37+10
Bo105; 86+83
Bo105; nn (lehrwerkstatt)
UH-1D; nn
C-47's; N45366, N47TB, N25641, N74589, N150D, NC24320, N47E, N877MG, N62CC, OY-BPB
Hercules; ZH889

Hangar nn
Tornado; 43+41
Bo.105; D-HELP
Tiger; nn
CH-53; 84+92
NH-90; MTR+1A

Hangar 10
NH-90; 78+31

Hanger 9A
NH-90; 78+21, 78+25

Hangar 9
NH-90; 4 unidentified (I was looking through the windows when the military police started asking questions)

Hangar 8
NH-90; 4 unidentified

Flying:
A.400; nn
EF-2000; nn
C-47; nn
2 biplanes
NH-90; 78+27, 78+28
H-145; 76+14
CH-53; 84+44
C-160D;50+77
Tiger;74+40

Gateguards
G-91; 32+32
UH-1D; 72+85
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Marco,

Flying was the A-400 54+22
Made a flypast together with C-47 F-AZOX. Both flew a solo afterwards.
EF2000 30+45
NH-90 79+07 made a para drop and flew the NH-90 solo afterwards
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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A quick log from yesterday. Who can help me with the gaps?

Many thanks.

Ronny

Fassberg, 15 june 2019:

(32+32) G-91R/3 TSLw 3 pres.at main gate “31+05”
(76+02) Alouette 2 pres.on the field
(72+85) UH-1D HFR 10 pres. behind teh gate
(43-30729) C-47A ex USAF and THK pres.as a monument “315208/S”

Static:
31+18 EF-2000 TLG 71
(37+10) F-4F TSLw 3
45+60 Tornado IDS TLG 51 cockpit only
45+69 Tornado IDS TLG 33
54+23 A-400M LTG 62
(71+16) UH-1D TSLw 3
74+13 Tiger UHT HFlgAubsZ
74+15 Tiger UHT HFlgAubsZ
76+15 H-145M HSG 64
78+20 NH-90TTH IHAZ
78+32 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+38 NH-90TTH IHAZ
79+08 NH-90TTH IHAZ
82+54 EC-135T1 IHAZ
84+33 CH-53GA HSG 64
84+37 CH-53GA HSG 64
84+83 CH-53G TSLw 3
(86+83) Bo-105P1 TSLw3 c/n 6083
(87+68) Bo-105P1M LSLw 3 c/n6168
(2028)? Tiger HAP ALAT
ZA947 Dakota C3 BoBMF
ZH889/889 Hercules C5 24/47 sqn
N45366 C-47/DC-3
N47TB C-47/DC-3
N25641 C-47/DC-3
N74589 C-47/DC-3
N150D C-47/DC-3
NC24320 C-47/DC-3
N47E C-47/DC-3
N877MG C-47/DC-3
N62CC C-47/DC-3
OY-BPB C-47/DC-3

Hangar:
84+92 CH-53GE HSG 64
(86+35) Bo-105P1 TSLw 3 as “D-HELP”
(43+41) Tornado IDS TSLw 3 c/n 4041
MTR+1A NH-90 TSLw 3 testrig
(98+25) Tiger UHT TSLw 3 c/n PT-05

Hangar 10:
78+31 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 9A:
78+21 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+25 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 9:
78+17 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+24 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+30 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+34 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 8:
78+05 NH-90TTH
78+10 NH-90TTH
78+18 NH-90TTH
79+26 NH-90TTH
7.+.. NH-90TTH
7.+.. NH-90TTH


Flying in the morning till 11.00 hrs:
30+45 EF-2000 TLG 74
54+22 A.400M LTG 62
74+40 Tiger UHT HFR 36
78+23 NH-90TTH HFR 10

On the flighline behind the tower were standing at 11.00 hrs:
74+40 Tiger UHT HFR 36
84+44 CH-53GE HSG 64
5 x NH-90: 78+23, 78+27, 78+28, 79+10 + ??
2 x H-145M: 76+14 + ??
1 x UH-1D: ??
3 x C-47/DC-3: SE-CFP, OH-LCH, 348608/CO
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Hi Ronny,
Thanks for the updates on the original repor, a few remarks:

The ground school at Fassberg is TAusbZLw (Technisches Ausbildungszendrum der Luftwaffe), no longer TSLw3

I believe that the NH-90s in Halle 8 are in use for ground instruction purposes (at least assigned to that role temporary). We read the same ones as you. One of the two others did not look like the real thing. We could be wrong but we believe that it is a purpose built ground instruction frame like the "MTR-1A" in TAusbZLw hangar. During the 2017 airshow here "MHR-2" was seen inside the same hangar...

Concerning the flightline behind the tower. There was only one H145M there, the other helicopter was the IHAZ EC135T1 (82+55) which flew during the morning display.
Also present there were four Harvards: D-FAML, D-FHGV, HB-RCN ("8231/6F1") and HB-RTA ("76-556/TA-556")

The NH-90s there also all flew in the morning:
78+23 para drop (same helicopter was used again for the para drop at the start of the afternoon display around 2 pm)
79+07 solo display
78+27, 78+28 and 79+10 civil protection display

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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From another source - 78+09 was another NH90 in hangar 8.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Hi all,

For Halle 8 78+03 was read off by another group, together with 78+10, 78+18 and 79+26. How certain are the sightings of 78+05 and/or 78+09?

As I recall, only the bottom half of the serial was visible. And then the 3, 5 and 9 all look alike.

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Hi Jochem,

We had the same trouble. The windows were tainted, it was dark inside and the steel construction against the helicopter also did not help. But from the lowest vintage point possible to view the serial we came to the conclusion that it had to be a "5".
Bit difficult to describe perhaps but the line of the number did not go up at the right hand side, while it did at the left hand side. That brought us to the conclusion that it was a "5". If anyone found a better viewing point and read something else I would gladly hear so!

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Sounds logical EJ.

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Hoi Ronny,

Your second H145 was infact an EC135, 82+55.

Regards,
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Ronny wrote:A quick log from yesterday. Who can help me with the gaps?

Many thanks.

Ronny

Fassberg, 15 june 2019:

(32+32) G-91R/3 TSLw 3 pres.at main gate “31+05”
(76+02) Alouette 2 pres.on the field
(72+85) UH-1D HFR 10 pres. behind teh gate
(43-30729) C-47A ex USAF and THK pres.as a monument “315208/S”

Static:
31+18 EF-2000 TLG 71
(37+10) F-4F TSLw 3
45+60 Tornado IDS TLG 51 cockpit only
45+69 Tornado IDS TLG 33
54+23 A-400M LTG 62
(71+16) UH-1D TSLw 3
74+13 Tiger UHT HFlgAubsZ
74+15 Tiger UHT HFlgAubsZ
76+15 H-145M HSG 64
78+20 NH-90TTH IHAZ
78+32 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+38 NH-90TTH IHAZ
79+08 NH-90TTH IHAZ
82+54 EC-135T1 IHAZ
84+33 CH-53GA HSG 64
84+37 CH-53GA HSG 64
84+83 CH-53G TSLw 3
(86+83) Bo-105P1 TSLw3 c/n 6083
(87+68) Bo-105P1M LSLw 3 c/n6168
(2028)? Tiger HAP ALAT
ZA947 Dakota C3 BoBMF
ZH889/889 Hercules C5 24/47 sqn
N45366 C-47/DC-3
N47TB C-47/DC-3
N25641 C-47/DC-3
N74589 C-47/DC-3
N150D C-47/DC-3
NC24320 C-47/DC-3
N47E C-47/DC-3
N877MG C-47/DC-3
N62CC C-47/DC-3
OY-BPB C-47/DC-3

Hangar:
84+92 CH-53GE HSG 64
(86+35) Bo-105P1 TSLw 3 as “D-HELP”
(43+41) Tornado IDS TSLw 3 c/n 4041
MTR+1A NH-90 TSLw 3 testrig
(98+25) Tiger UHT TSLw 3 c/n PT-05

Hangar 10:
78+31 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 9A:
78+21 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+25 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 9:
78+17 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+24 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+30 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+34 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 8:
78+05 NH-90TTH
78+10 NH-90TTH
78+18 NH-90TTH
79+26 NH-90TTH
7.+.. NH-90TTH
7.+.. NH-90TTH


Flying in the morning till 11.00 hrs:
30+45 EF-2000 TLG 74
54+22 A.400M LTG 62
74+40 Tiger UHT HFR 36
78+23 NH-90TTH HFR 10

On the flighline behind the tower were standing at 11.00 hrs:
74+40 Tiger UHT HFR 36
84+44 CH-53GE HSG 64
5 x NH-90: 78+23, 78+27, 78+28, 79+10 + ??
2 x H-145M: 76+14 + ??
1 x UH-1D: ??
3 x C-47/DC-3: SE-CFP, OH-LCH, 348608/CO
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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At 16.30h the Tiger from the flightline left. Also 2 dubbele dekkers took off, looked like SV-4 Stampe? At 17.15h 3 Daks took off and made some passes. Can anyone confirm it were the 3 from the flighline? We saw them while departing from the parking.
Bus yellow drove past Hangar 6 where 2 camo with orange Do-27 were visible and a Bo-105. Anyone for those serials? Do-27 should be 55+02 and 55+56 as show the pictures on Eurodemobbed?

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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EJ,
Roughly what time did the EC135 fly in the morning please?
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Hi Andy,
If memory serves me right around 10:50 hrs.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Hi Ronny,

the UH-1D behind the Tower was 73+48 (on SAR duty)

Regards

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Ronny wrote:A quick log from yesterday. Who can help me with the gaps?

Many thanks.

Ronny

Fassberg, 15 june 2019:

(32+32) G-91R/3 TSLw 3 pres.at main gate “31+05”
(76+02) Alouette 2 pres.on the field
(72+85) UH-1D HFR 10 pres. behind teh gate
(43-30729) C-47A ex USAF and THK pres.as a monument “315208/S”

Static:
31+18 EF-2000 TLG 71
(37+10) F-4F TSLw 3
45+60 Tornado IDS TLG 51 cockpit only
45+69 Tornado IDS TLG 33
54+23 A-400M LTG 62
(71+16) UH-1D TSLw 3
74+13 Tiger UHT HFlgAubsZ
74+15 Tiger UHT HFlgAubsZ
76+15 H-145M HSG 64
78+20 NH-90TTH IHAZ
78+32 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+38 NH-90TTH IHAZ
79+08 NH-90TTH IHAZ
82+54 EC-135T1 IHAZ
84+33 CH-53GA HSG 64
84+37 CH-53GA HSG 64
84+83 CH-53G TSLw 3
(86+83) Bo-105P1 TSLw3 c/n 6083
(87+68) Bo-105P1M LSLw 3 c/n6168
(2028)? Tiger HAP ALAT
ZA947 Dakota C3 BoBMF
ZH889/889 Hercules C5 24/47 sqn
N45366 C-47/DC-3
N47TB C-47/DC-3
N25641 C-47/DC-3
N74589 C-47/DC-3
N150D C-47/DC-3
NC24320 C-47/DC-3
N47E C-47/DC-3
N877MG C-47/DC-3
N62CC C-47/DC-3
OY-BPB C-47/DC-3

Hangar:
84+92 CH-53GE HSG 64
(86+35) Bo-105P1 TSLw 3 as “D-HELP”
(43+41) Tornado IDS TSLw 3 c/n 4041
MTR+1A NH-90 TSLw 3 testrig
(98+25) Tiger UHT TSLw 3 c/n PT-05

Hangar 10:
78+31 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 9A:
78+21 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+25 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 9:
78+17 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+24 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+30 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+34 NH-90TTH THR 10

Hangar 8:
78+05 NH-90TTH
78+10 NH-90TTH
78+18 NH-90TTH
79+26 NH-90TTH
7.+.. NH-90TTH
7.+.. NH-90TTH


Flying in the morning till 11.00 hrs:
30+45 EF-2000 TLG 74
54+22 A.400M LTG 62
74+40 Tiger UHT HFR 36
78+23 NH-90TTH HFR 10

On the flighline behind the tower were standing at 11.00 hrs:
74+40 Tiger UHT HFR 36
84+44 CH-53GE HSG 64
5 x NH-90: 78+23, 78+27, 78+28, 79+10 + ??
2 x H-145M: 76+14 + ??
1 x UH-1D: ??
3 x C-47/DC-3: SE-CFP, OH-LCH, 348608/CO
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 15-6-2019

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Many thanks for the extra serials according the open day at Nordholz.
Grtz. Ronny
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