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ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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From the ILA home page:

ILA 2010: Armed forces present all their aircraft for the first time in a realistic, combined training mission

The impressive presentation by the military on the open air grounds will feature some 70 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs, ranging from the Eurofighter to the Tiger combat helicopter and the Med-Evac Airbus A310 for medical emergency missions. Visitors will also be able to see the Heron unmanned aircraft, which the Bundeswehr has been using for recon-naissance purposes in Afghanistan since March 2010.

Full story here

Other participants:

Airbus A400M, Airbus A380, Airbus A330-200 Freighter

Bell 429
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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Another update from the ILA site here

According to this article the Lufthansa A-380 will make an appearance at the opening of ILA 2010. Another A-380, belonging to the airline Emirates is expected to put in an appearance as well.

Other interesting aircraft include the UH-72 Lakota, the CH-53GA, the Saab Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Also a strong US presence is expected.
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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Taken from UK Airshow Review:
"Just spoke to one of the participants at this years ILA, and apparently the "Runway problem" is going to be worse this year. I went in 2008, and due to the construction at Schonenfeld they were a runway down, so everytime there was a commercial arrival, they had to move the displays accross to the other side of the airfeild, a very long way away from the crowd (no matter how long your lens is!)
Apparently in 2010 they are losing their cross-runway also! so now both the airshow + commercial traffic (which has incresed with the closing of templehof) have to share ONE RUNWAY... it is expected that many displays will be cancelled or moved to the other side of the airfeild
I hope this is not the case, but just a heads up."
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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Flying programme (not too much specific types mentioned, but it is a time schedule...):
http://www.ila-berlin.com/ila2010/airsh ... ramm_e.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Press release with types mentioned:
http://www.ila-berlin.com/ila2010/press ... ?id_nr=162" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

A400M, Dornier 228 NG (New Generation) from RUAG, Sikorsky S-92, Sikorsky S-434, Agusta Westland AW101, Bell 429,

Antares research aircraft of th German Aerospace Centre (DLR), the DLR-H2 is the world’s first manned aircraft to be powered solely by fuel cells,

Eurofighter, Saab Gripen,
Grob G520 Egrett ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grob/E-Sys ... nal_Egrett" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , yes, this was to be a U-2 equivalent for the Luftwaffe!),
flying displays by DC-3 , Messerschmitt Me-262, Rockwell OV-10 Bronco.

Red Bull (taken from http://www.flyingbulls.com/#/de/Termina ... ing-Events" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) :
Douglas DC-6B, B-25 Mitchell, Lockheed P-38L Lightning, Chance Vought F4U-4 "Corsair", Bell Cobra TAH-1F, Bolkow Bo-105 CB).

Helicopters (mostly on static display):
NH 90 tactical transporter, the Tiger combat helicopter, CH 53 GA heavy transporter, Eurocopter EC 135, Bell 429 , MD 902, Robinson R 22 and R 44, EC 120, EC 155, BO 105. US Armys UH 72 Lakota.
Each day there will be a spectacular aerobatic display by the Red Bull BO 105.

So far not that much "well-informed rumours" for ILA 2010. :? But have read that the Airbus A400M may only be present in Berlin on the "Trade Days"... :(
Bei der A400M redet man von Messeseite zwar davon, dass sie die gesamte Zeit da wäre. Aber von Industrieseite habe ich die Aussage gehört, sie würde nur für 2-3 Tage zu den Fachbesuchertagen kommen (Di und Mi wahrscheinlich, da kommen Merkel/Di und Guttenberg/Mi auf die Messe). Man sei ja im zeitlichen Verzug und könne daher die Maschine nicht eine ganze Woche auf eine Messe stellen.
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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From another topic:

Planned DOD air and trade show exhibitions 2010 (subject to change):

BERLIN AIR SHOW
8/6/2010 - 13/6/2010
USAFE: C-130J-30, F-15E, F-16C
USAF: B-1B, B-52H, C-17A, C-5, CV-22, E-8C, MQ-1/MQ-9
USAR: CH-47F, AH-64D
USN: F/A-18F
CNE: MH-60S

According to the same topic this is probably more a request. Topic here
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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Heaving read several ILA-pages on flugzeugforum, the following civilean participants are also mentioned:

Italy: Pioneerteam
Swiss: Hunter Flying Group
Turkey: Ali Oztürk
Mike Schoenmaker
Vice-president / Activities / PR
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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And the full list, utnil now:

Acromach S2S Acromach Ltd. D
Zlin Z526 AFS Aero Gera D
Zlin Z526 AFS Aero Gera D
Zlin Z326 A Aero Gera S
Zlin Z226 Trener Aero Gera S
Zlin Z226 Trener Aero Gera S
Giles Beierlein GB202 Aero Gera D
Wilga 35 Aero Gera S
Aerospatiale AS 350 B Aeroheli International R
Robinson R44 Aeroheli International R
Agusta Westland AW101 Agusta Westland S
Agusta Westland SW4 Agusta Westland S
P2006T Tecnam MMA Airborne Technologies S
Airbus A380 Airbus D
Airbus A320-232 Airbus S
Airbus A320 Airbus S
DLH A380 Airbus S
Mü 30 Schlacro Akaflieg München D
Dassault MD 311 Amicale des Aviona Anciens d'Albert D
Dassault MD 311 Amicale des Aviona Anciens d'Albert D
De Havilland Chipmunk DHC-1 Arnhold S
Sud-Quest Alouette II SE3130 Ausbildungswerkstatt Bückeburg S
Lancair Legacy Baaz S
Aero Vodochody L-39 Albatros Baltic Bees Jet Team S
Aero Vodochody L-39 Albatros Baltic Bees Jet Team S
Aero Vodochody L-39 Albatros Baltic Bees Jet Team S
Bell 429 Bell Helicopter S
Bombardier Global 5000 Bombardier Aerospace S
Beech D17 Staggerwing Bucher S
EADS Barracuda Bundesamt für Wehrtechnik und Beschaffung S
Eurofighter Typhoon 1PA3 Bundesamt für Wehrtechnik und Beschaffung S
Eurocopter EC 135 T2 Bundespolizei S
Bleriot XI Carlson S
Daher Socata TBM850 Daher-Socata S
North American P-51 Mustang Davies D
Junlers Ju52 Deutsche Lufthansa Berlin Stiftung R
Heron TP Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Cessna Citation CJ1 Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Transall C-160 Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Airbus A310 MedEvac Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Airbus A310 MRTT Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Transall C-160 Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Transall C-160 Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Bell UH-1D MedEvac Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Bell UH-1D VIP Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Bell UH-1D SAR Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Bell UH-1D Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Bell UH-1D Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado ECR Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Panavia Tornado IDS Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Panavia Tornado Recce Deutsche Luftwaffe S
McDonnell Douglas F4-F Phantom Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Panavia Tornado AuL Deutsche Luftwaffe S
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado IDS Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado IDS Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado IDS Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado Recce Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado Recce Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado Recce Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado ECR Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado ECR Deutsche Luftwaffe De
McDonnell Douglas F4-F Phantom Deutsche Luftwaffe De
McDonnell Douglas F4-F Phantom Deutsche Luftwaffe De
McDonnell Douglas F4-F Phantom Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Eurofighter Typhoon Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Panavia Tornado Deutsche Luftwaffe De
Westland Sea Lynx Mk88 Deutsche Marine S
Westland Sea King Mk41 Deutsche Marine S
Dornier Do228 LM Deutsche Marine S
Robinson R22 Deutscher Hubschrauber Verband S
Robinson R44 Deutscher Hubschrauber Verband S
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer S
NH-Industries NH90 Deutsches Heer S
Eurocopter Tiger UHT Deutsches Heer S
Eurocopter EC 135 Deutsches Heer S
MBB BO-105 Swooper Deutsches Heer S
Bell UH-1D Deutsches Heer S
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer D
NH-Industries NH90 Deutsches Heer D
Eurocopter Tiger UHT Deutsches Heer D
MBB Bo 105 Deutsches Heer D
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Sikorsky CH-53 GS Deutsches Heer De
Eurocopter Tiger UHT Deutsches Heer De
Eurocopter Tiger UHT Deutsches Heer De
MBB BO 105 Deutsches Heer De
MBB BO 105 Deutsches Heer De
Bell UH-1D Deutsches Heer De
Bell UH-1D Deutsches Heer De
NH-Industries NH90 Deutsches Heer De
NH-Industries NH90 Deutsches Heer De
NH-Industries NH90 Deutsches Heer De
NH-Industries NH90 Deutsches Heer De
NH-Industries NH90 Deutsches Heer De
Diamond DA42 MPP Guardian Diamond Airborne Sensing S
Diamond DA42 MPP New Generation Diamond Airborne Sensing S
Diamond HK36 Super Dimona Diamond Airborne Sensing S
Diamond HK36 Super Dimona Diamond Airborne Sensing D
Diamond DA42 NG Diamond Airborne Sensing S
Diamond DA40 Diamond Airborne Sensing S
Daimond DA42 Diamond Airborne Sensing D
Antares DLR H2 DLR S
Dassault Falcon 20E DLR S
Gulfstream G550 DLR S
Dornier Do 228-101 DLR S
Eurocopter Bo 105C DLR S
Eurocopter EC 135 T2 DLR S
Douglas DC-2 Dutch National Aviation Museum Aviodrome S
Pilatus PC-9B E.I.S. Aircraft S
Messerschmitt Me 262 EADS Heritage Flight D
Messerschmitt Me 109 EADS Heritage Flight D
Airbus A400M EASA CASA D
Siai Marchetti S-211 Eichhorn Air Adventures S
Aero Vodochody L-29 Delfin Eichhorn Air Adventures D
North American AT-6F Eichhorn Air Adventures D
Sikorsky CH53 GA Eurocopter Deutschland S
NH-Industries NH90 NFH Eurocopter Deutschland S
Eurocopter EC 120 Eurocopter Deutschland S
Eurocopter EC 135 Eurocopter Deutschland S
Eurocopter EC 145 Eurocopter Deutschland S
Eurocopter Tiger UHT Eurocopter Deutschland D
NH-Industries NH90 NFH Eurocopter Deutschland D
Eurocopter EC 145 Eurocopter Deutschland S
Exttra 330 SC Fallis D
Hawker Hunter Mk 68 A Fliegermuseum Altenrhein D
Hawker Hunter Mk 58 A Fliegermuseum Altenrhein S
Zlin Z42M Fliegerrevue Airshow Team D
Zlin Z43 Fliegerrevue Airshow Team D
Zlin Z226T Trener Fliegerrevue Airshow Team D
Focke-Wulf Piaggio 149 Fliegerrevue Airshow Team D
Beech C23 Sundowner Fliegerrevue Airshow Team D
Dassault Mirage 2000N French Air Force S
Cessna C400 FSB Aircraft Maintenance S
Cessna C172 FSB Aircraft Maintenance S
Cessna C182 FSB Aircraft Maintenance S
Cessna C400 FSB Aircraft Maintenance S
PZL 106 AR Kruk Gehling Flugtechnik D
Lisunov LI-2 Goldtimer Foundation S
Grob G120 TP Grob Aircraft S
Grob G 115EG Grob Aircraft S
Grob G120A-I Grob Aircraft D
Sikorsky CH 53 G Heeresfliegerwaffenschule S
Eurocopter EC 635 Heeresfliegerwaffenschule S
Eurocopter EC 135 Heeresfliegerwaffenschule S
Beechcraft 35 Straight Bonanza HG Jaspers/Ronsdorf S
Harlan Eindecker Hintzke S
Fokker DR1 Historische Flugzeuge Koch S
Klemm 25 Historische Flugzeuge Koch S
De Havilland Tiger Moth DH 82A Historische Flugzeuge Koch S
Bücker 131 Historische Flugzeuge Koch S
Bölkow 207 Historische Flugzeuge Koch S
Saab JAS-39 C Gripen Hungarian Air Force D
Saab JAS-39 D Gripen Hungarian Air Force S
Waco YKS-6 Ikarus Promotion und Werbung S
Taylorcraft Auster Mk5 Knöffler S
Dornier Do 228 NG Kustenwacht, Niederlande D
Dornier Do 228-212 Kustenwacht, Niederlande S
Cessna Citation CJ3 Liebherr Geschäftsreiseflugzeuge S
Cessna Citation CJ2 Liebherr Geschäftsreiseflugzeuge S
Lockheed Martin Hercules C-130J Lockheed Martin Aeronautics D
Zlin Z-42M Luftsportclub Schönefeld S
Zlin Z-42M Luftsportclub Schönefeld S
Zlin Z-42M Luftsportclub Schönefeld S
Zlin Z-43 Luftsportclub Schönefeld S
Hawker Sea Fury Mistral Warbirds istral Warbirds Association D
North American OV-10 Bronco Musee Europeen de Laviation de Chasse D
Boeing E-3A Sentry (AWACS) NATO S
Siai Marchetti SF-260 Niebergall S
Stemme S 15 OHB Technology S
Stemme S15 OHB Technology S
Grob EGRETT OHB Technology S
Messerschmitt Bf 109 UL Peak Aerospace D
Messerschmitt Bf 109 UL Peak Aerospace D
Cessna C195 Peschina S
Pioneer Hawk Pioneer Team D
Pioneer Hawk Pioneer Team D
Pioneer Hawk Pioneer Team D
Pioneer Hawk Pioneer Team D
Piper Meridian PA46 TP Piper Generalvertretung AG S
Piper Sport Piper Generalvertretung AG S
Piper Archer PA-28-181 Piper Generalvertretung AG S
Piper Arrow PA28-R201 Piper Generalvertretung AG S
Piper Seminole PA44 Piper Generalvertretung AG S
Piper Liberty Piper Generalvertretung AG S
Consolidated PBY-5A Catalina Plane Sailing Air Displays D
Aero 145 Pokora S
Aero AT-3 R100 Polish Information and Foreign Investment Agency S
Saab 91 Safir ProFlight S
Dornier Do 28 D2 RAG-Flugdienst S
Dornier Do 28 D2 RAG-Flugdienst S
Agusta 109SP REGA, Schweizerische Rettungsflugwacht S
EADS Socata TBM 850 Rheinland Air Service S
Heron TP Rheinmetall AG S
Shark Shark Aircraft D
Christen Eagle II Stebler S
Lockheed Martin Hercules C130 Swedish Air Force S
Saab SF340 Swedish Air Force S
Saab JAS 39 Gripen D Swedish Air Force S
Saab JAS 39 Gripen C Swedish Air Force D
Saab JAS 39 Gripen C Swedish Air Force D
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force D
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force D
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force D
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force D
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force D
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force D
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force S
Northrop F-5E Tiger II Swiss Air Force S
McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet Swiss Air Force D
McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet Swiss Air Force S
VFW614 tba S
De Havilland Dove DH 104 TFC GmbH S
Flight Design CTLS UL-GmbH S
Flight Design CT Supralight UL-GmbH S
Rockwell B-1B Lancer US Air Force S
Eurocopter LUH-72 Lakota US Air Force S
Lockheed Martin Hercules C-130J US Air Force S
Boeing C-17A Globemaster III US Air Force S
Boeing KC-135R US Air Force S
Douglas DC-3 Vallentuna Aviatörförening D
Boeing Stearman PT17 Wing Walkers D
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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The list above (taken from http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2010/airshow/flugg_kat.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) does not list any Red Bull aircraft (yet) :?:

The flying programme at http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2010/airsho ... ogramm.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; seems to have been updated...
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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Anyone with experience on this show ? Would like to visit it for the first time.

Don't get the flying programme either. Which demo's can be expected at what day, besides Patr.Suisse and others, that are different per day. Other demonstrations seem to take place each day. But which? Are all participating aircraft on the field from 8-13 June ?

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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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K-9 wrote:Anyone with experience on this show ? Would like to visit it for the first time.

Don't get the flying programme either. Which demo's can be expected at what day, besides Patr.Suisse and others, that are different per day. Other demonstrations seem to take place each day. But which? Are all participating aircraft on the field from 8-13 June ?

Mtia, Rene
Last show flying was not published before 20.00 the day before each day at their website. Until then things will still change as they have to take normal operations at Schönefeld into account, so you can't be sure what to expect on beforehand. It is just the old style gamble what you will see :P . Not all participants will be around for the whole show, some only for the opening day (Lufthansa A380), some only for one or more trade days and other only for public days.
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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Stratofreighter wrote:So far not that much "well-informed rumours" for ILA 2010. :? But have read that the Airbus A400M may only be present in Berlin on the "Trade Days"... :(
Bei der A400M redet man von Messeseite zwar davon, dass sie die gesamte Zeit da wäre. Aber von Industrieseite habe ich die Aussage gehört, sie würde nur für 2-3 Tage zu den Fachbesuchertagen kommen (Di und Mi wahrscheinlich, da kommen Merkel/Di und Guttenberg/Mi auf die Messe). Man sei ja im zeitlichen Verzug und könne daher die Maschine nicht eine ganze Woche auf eine Messe stellen.
In the flying display the ILA Highlights include the A400M but only for Tuesday and Wednesday. So I think it is not a rumour anymore..
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

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Update as of the 10th of May at http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2010/airshow/flugg_alle.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please be advised the Phantoms and Eurofighters will operate from Laage and the Tornadoes from Schleswig. JG71 will deploy to Laage with probably 4 to 5 Phantoms...

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Status:
S = Statische Ausstellung
D = Flugvorführung
De = Flugvorführung, extern
R = Rundflug
V = Verkaufsflug
F = Fotoflug

Luftfahrzeug
Aussteller
Status

Acromach S2S
Acromach Ltd.
D

Eurocopter EC 135
ADAC-Luftrettung
D

Zlin Z526 AFS
Aero Gera
D (2x)

Zlin Z326 A
Aero Gera
S

Zlin Z226 Trener
Aero Gera
S (2x)

Giles Beierlein GB202
Aero Gera
D

Wilga 35
Aero Gera
S

Aerospatiale AS 350 B
Aeroheli International
R

Robinson R44
Aeroheli International
R

Agusta Westland AW101
Agusta Westland
S

Agusta Westland SW4
Agusta Westland
S

P2006T Tecnam MMA
Airborne Technologies
S

Airbus A380-861
Airbus
D

Airbus A320-232
Airbus
S

Airbus A320
Airbus
S

Airbus A380 DLH
Airbus
S

Airbus A380
Airbus
S

Airbus A400M
Airbus Military
D

Mü 30 Schlacro
Akaflieg München
D

Dassault MD 311
Amicale des Aviona Anciens d'Albert
D (2x)

De Havilland Chipmunk DHC-1
Arnhold
S

Sud-Quest Alouette II SE3130
Ausbildungswerkstatt Bückeburg
S

Eurocopter EC 155B
Avinco
V

Lancair Legacy
Baaz
S

Aero Vodochody L-39 Albatros
Baltic Bees Jet Team
S (3x)

Bell 429
Bell Helicopter
S

Bombardier Global 5000
Bombardier Aerospace
S

Beech D17 Staggerwing
Bucher
S

Eurofighter Typhoon 1PA3
Bundesamt für Wehrtechnik und Beschaffung
S

Eurocopter EC 135 T2
Bundespolizei
S

Bleriot XI
Carlson
S

Daher-Socata TBM 850
Daher-Socata
S (2x)

North American P-51 Mustang
Davies
D

Junlers Ju52
Deutsche Lufthansa Berlin Stiftung
R

Heron TP
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Cessna Citation CJ1
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S (really Lufthansa Bremen in use with the Luftwaffe)

Transall C-160
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Airbus A310 MedEvac
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Airbus A310 MRTT
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De

Transall C-160
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (2x)

Bell UH-1D MedEvac
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Bell UH-1D VIP
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Bell UH-1D SAR
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Bell UH-1D
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (2x)

Panavia Tornado ECR
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Panavia Tornado IDS
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Panavia Tornado Recce
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

McDonnell Douglas F4-F Phantom
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Eurofighter Typhoon
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Panavia Tornado AuL
Deutsche Luftwaffe
S

Eurofighter Typhoon
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (6x)

Panavia Tornado IDS
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (3x)

Panavia Tornado Recce
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (3x)

Panavia Tornado ECR
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (2X)

McDonnell Douglas F4-F Phantom
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (3X)

Panavia Tornado
Deutsche Luftwaffe
De (2X)

Westland Sea Lynx Mk88
Deutsche Marine
S

Westland Sea King Mk41
Deutsche Marine
S

Dornier Do228 LM
Deutsche Marine
S

Robinson R22
Deutscher Hubschrauber Verband
S

Robinson R44
Deutscher Hubschrauber Verband
S

Sikorsky CH-53 GS
Deutsches Heer
S

NH-Industries NH90
Deutsches Heer
S

Eurocopter Tiger UHT
Deutsches Heer
S

Eurocopter EC 135
Deutsches Heer
S

MBB BO-105 Swooper
Deutsches Heer
S

Bell UH-1D
Deutsches Heer
S

Sikorsky CH-53 GS
Deutsches Heer
D

NH-Industries NH90
Deutsches Heer
D

Eurocopter Tiger UHT
Deutsches Heer
D

MBB Bo 105
Deutsches Heer
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

Post by Machiavelli »

I wouldn´t expect that the Army Heli Demo will take place as announced at the website
for those who didn´t know- -

German Tiger (PBL 002) are still grounded, only the WTD 61 (and LeLuc (Step 1 Heli)) are flying atm,
same will be true for the ILA :cry:
as the AAvnDiv (DLO) can´t support as in the last yrs (money, a/c and flying hrs missing :evil: )
there is supposedly only a scaled down AirLandOp demo and/or single flying displays (Tiger WTD, AAvnSchool Bbg with NH, CH, UH 1D, Bo 105 and EC 135)
atm Luftwaffe should take part as planned.

We´ll see what they get out of this situation.
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

Post by wamovements »

Two years ago the Tigers came from LeLuc as well, so I do not see the problem.

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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010

Post by Machiavelli »

I see 2 problems

1. it is also only 1 German Tiger airworthy there ( Flthrs and spare parts )

2a. Money
2b. Time

Maybe 2 isn´t a problem if the MoD prioritizes the Show, but in my opinion, as long as the IP´s aren´t able to stay current

a 2 day formation trng, a long range Nav trip and a air show demo shouldn´t be top priority
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