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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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K2GI wrote: read A-jet E135 as E133 / 8-MN
other Alpha Jet codes

E 92 / 2-FL
E 91 / 102-..
E 9 / 102-..
E 15 / 8-NO
159 / 8-MC ?
I can add: E63/8-MZ
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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stipjes wrote: Hoi Hans,

Walking along the fence on the way to the 4 C-160 fuselages you can see the rear fuselages with the serials (just before the bushes start). Someone commented that serial of one of the Mirage's in this line could be 17 in stead of 47. If the sprayed was very old fashioned (writing style) that could be the case. Is one of the two still operational?
I think the confusion is about Mirage 2000N 347 which might be 317. I also read this as 347, but this one crashed quite some time ago, while 317 was noted as a fuselage at Chateaudun fairly recently. Problem......
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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I noted Mirage 2000N 317 on the 2nd on the German runway amongst the other Mirage 2000 fuselages.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Between 2000C 79 and 2000N 331 was 2000N 311 (at least marked as such inside the after fuselage.)
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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orange wrote:
stipjes wrote: Hoi Hans,

Walking along the fence on the way to the 4 C-160 fuselages you can see the rear fuselages with the serials (just before the bushes start). Someone commented that serial of one of the Mirage's in this line could be 17 in stead of 47. If the sprayed was very old fashioned (writing style) that could be the case. Is one of the two still operational?
I think the confusion is about Mirage 2000N 347 which might be 317. I also read this as 347, but this one crashed quite some time ago, while 317 was noted as a fuselage at Chateaudun fairly recently. Problem......
I also read it as 347 ...
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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My picture confirms it as 317.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Maby this is something to complete the puzzle.

Nivouville part area;

All N-262s were actually read off from the tail.
No. 64/(AA)
No. 66/(AB)
No. 68/(AC)
No. 76/(316-DA)
No. 77/(AK)
No. 80/(AW)
No. 81/(AH)
No. 83/(316-DB)fuselage
No. 87 /(316-DC)
No. 88/(AL)
No. 91/(AT)
No. 92/(316-DE)
No. 93/(AP)
No. 94/(AU)
No. 105/(AE)
No. 106/(AY)
No. 107/(AX)
No. 108/(AG)
No. 109/(AM)
No. 110/(AS)

In front of the N-262s sole Fouga No. 484 was read off.

Six Falcon-20s were seen;
Or actually 5! (186/339-JE only the tail was seen)
Read were;
(115)/339-JG
(268)/F-RAEF
and the others that were seen ;
(463/339-JE)
(451/339-JC)
(260/F-RAEA)
(95/F-RAED)

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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Just took a second look at my pictures and I agree with the 347 being the 317.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Jan H wrote:The Dump;
Beside this one was the Fuselage of CM-170 in blue
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The blue CM170 in the scrapyard and visible from outside, with its aft canopy open, was 423
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Otger,
Thnx.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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W&R wrote:
wamovements wrote:
orange wrote:
Hanagr: 4 x TB-30’s.
There were six TB-30s, also two in the back behind the mirages 2000's and F1's (4x white, twox grey) I have photoproof of all six of them:
14/315-UM
21/315-UT
36/315-VI
62/315-WE
105/F-SEXV/4
139/315-ZD
105/F-SEXV/4 was on the static
It is TB30 110 instead of 105.

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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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wonju666 wrote:It is TB30 110 instead of 105.
Thanks,

mixed up the allocation of 105 and 110 in my sheet. Had 110 at static and 105 in hangar iso other way around. :twisted:
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Thanks again for all the updates! Made a new overview;

Chateaudun 01-06-2013
Mirage IIIRD 367/33-TP Preserved gate
CM-170 464 Gategaurd
Mirage F-1C 49/30-MQ Preserved near flightline
Mirage F-1C 10/12-ZD Preserved near tower
Vautour 2B 615/92-AK Preserved
Jaguar A A43/7-HF Preserved
Jaguar A A154/11-YN Preserved

Flightline:
Saab 105Ö E (red) Düsentrainerstaffel
TBM-700 77/XD
Mirage 2000-5F 49/116-EA SPA 3 / EC 01.002
Mirage 2000-5F 73/116-ES SPA 103 / EC 01.002
Mirage F-1CR 604/118-CF BR 11 / ER 02.033
Mirage F-1CR 611/118-NM C53 / ER 02.033
F-16A J-015 Klu Demo Team
F-16A J-011 312 Sqn
Rafale C 135/113-GN, 141/113-GT EC 01.007
Extra 330 05/F-TGCJ EVAA

Hangar : CANOPEE Exposition
Mirage F-1CT 225/30-SQ Preserved, plus EMOOS

Hangar : Stored aircraft
Mirage F-1B 516/112-SI
Mirage F-1CT 227/330-AA
Mirage F-1CT 236/112-QR
Mirage F-1CT 238/30-QC
Mirage F-1CR 603/112-NU
Mirage F-1CR 613/112-CC
Mirage F-1CR 636/118-NL
Mirage F-1CR 637/112-CP
Mirage F-1CR 641/112-NI
Mirage F-1CR 656/112-CS
Mirage 2000C 5/115-OT
Mirage 2000C 27/5-NT Fuselage only
Mirage 2000B 507/5-O., 519/5-OW
TB-30 14/315-UM
TB-30 21/315-UT
TB-30 62/315-WE
TB-30 36/315-VI
TB-30 110/F-SEXV/4
TB-30 109/315-ZD

N-2501F 171 Preserved near static
Jaguar A A137/7-HQ Cockpit only
Jaguar A A117 Cockpit only (far end)

Static (active aircraft)
Rafale C 139/113-GR SPA 162 / EC 01.007
F-16B FB-24 OCU
Saab 105Ö H (red) Düsentrainerstaffel
Mirage 2000D 617/133-IS EC 01.003 Coca flight
Tornado IDS 46+15 332 Staffel / JBG 33

Static (stored aircraft)
Mirage 2000C 103-LI std, EC 1/12..50 yrs Tiger Meet Special c/s
Mirage 2000N 360/125-CB std, 7 Ans Limousin Special c/s
Mirage F-1CT 242/118-QA std
Mirage F-1B 518/112-SR std, special c/s
Mirage F-1CR 628/112-NB std, ER 1/33 special c/s
Rafale C C01 std, ex Prototype black c/s
Mirage 2000B 518/5-OM std
Alpha Jet E E107 std, special c/s
EMB-312 459/312-HD std, special c/s
Jaguar A A91/11-YG std, desert c/s, damaged
Mirage 2000N 314 std, special c/s
Mirage 2000C 103-YN std, special c/s
TB-30 100/XQ, 105/XV Cartouche dior c/s
TB-30 61/WD EPAA 00.315


Parked near static:
EC-725R2 2802/SK AdlA

Arrivals:
C-160R R201/64-GA ET 00.064
TBM-700 ?

Flying only:
Mirage F-1CR 617/118-NE BR 11 / ER 02.033
Mirage F-1CR 659/118-NT C53 / ER 02.033

Old German Runway (facing the airfield from fence)
First line on the right side of the runway;
Mirage 2000C 20
Mirage 2000B 508
Mirage 2000C 17
Mirage 2000N 326
Alpha Jet E E66/8-ME
Alpha Jet E E92/2-FL
Alpha Jet E E91/102-
Alpha Jet E E9/102-LF
Alpha Jet E E133/8-MN
Alpha Jet E E15/8-NO
Alpha Jet E E159/8-MC
Alpha Jet E E150
Alpha Jet E E19
Alpha Jet E E63/8-MZ
Alpha Jet E E21
Alpha Jet E E65
Alpha Jet E E36
Mirage 2000N 330

Second line on the right side of the runway;
Mirage 2000C 53/2-FA
Mirage F-1
Mirage 2000C 4
Mirage 2000C ?
Mirage 2000C ..3
Mirage 2000C 1
Mirage 23?
Mirage 2000N 327
Alpha Jet E E47? Tail only
Mirage 2000C 79
Mirage 2000N 311
Mirage 2000N 331
Mirage 2000C ?
Mirage 2000N 341
Mirage 2000C 8
Mirage 2000N 317
Mirage 2000B 510
Mirage 2000
Mirage 2000C 12
Mirage 2000N 325
Mirage 2000N 315
Mirage 2000
Mirage 2000C 30
Mirage 2000C ?

Line on the center of the runway;
Mirage F-1CR 640
Mirage F-1CR 624
Mirage F-1CR 630
Mirage F-1CR 627
Mirage F-1C Arctic MF2000 c/s?
Mirage F-1CR 635
Jaguar A A138
Jaguar A A150
Mirage IIIE 520
Mirage F-1CR 643
Mirage F-1CR 616

First line on the left side of the runway;
Falcon 20SNA 131
Falcon 20 F-RAEG
Falcon 20 F-RAEH
CM-170 426
CM-170 537
CM-170 425
CM-170 Blue nose
CM-170 407
CM-170 55/312-HB Red nose
Mirage IIIE 526
CM-170 567/VF PdF c/s
TB-30 13/315-UL Fuselage

Second line on the left side of the runway;
Nord 262 100
Nord 262 79
Nord 262 53
Nord 262 69
Nord 262 75
Nord 262 52
Nord 262 45
Nord 262 71
Nord 262 63
Nord 262 73
Nord 262 70
Nord 262 46
Nord 262 51
Nord 262 AR
N-2501 41
Xingu 076/YD
Xingu 080/YF Wings only

Third line on the left side of the runway;
Jag A A145/7-HG
Mirage F-1
Jag A A90
Mirage F-1
Jaguar A A53
Mirage F-1 Desert c/s
Jaguar A A158/7-HT
Mirage F-1 608/33-CW
Jaguar A A103
Mirage F-1C 3/12-ZO
Jaguar A A115
Mirage F-1C 6/30-SJ
Jaguar A A84
Mirage F-1 Desert c/s
Jaguar A A108/7-HQ
Mirage F-1CR 612/33-NJ
Jaguar A A38
Jaguar A A144/7-HA
Mirage IIIE

Scrap area; (amongst many others)
Mirage IVA (21)/AT
Mirage IVA 47/BT
Mirage IVA 20 Tail only
Mirage IVA 34/BG Fuselage only
Mirage IVA 13/AL
Mirage F-1C 02 Desert c/s
Mirage F-1C 213 Desert c/s
Mirage F-1C 5
Mirage F-1C 31 Tiger mks
Nord 262 86
Jaguar E E32
Jaguar E E2
Jaguar E E19
Jaguar A A17
Jaguar A A160
Mirage 52
Mirage IIIE 2-LO Parked on grass?
CM-170 423 PdF

Ramp near scrap area; (amongst others, no order of presence noted)
Mirage F-1CR 650/112-NZ
C-160 61-ZB
C-160 61-MX
C-160 61-MH
C-160 61-MP
Nord 262 107, 93, 83, 80, 91, 87, 64, 110, 77, 66, 68, 76, 81, 83, 88, 92, 94, 105, 106, 108, 109
Falcon 20 95/F-RAED, 260/F-RAEA
Falcon 20SNA 115/339-JG, 451/339-JC, 463/339-JE

DBR Training area;(amongst others)
C-160 R46/61-MR
Mirage 2000C 18/5-NP
Mirage 2000B 506?
Jaguar A A33
Jaguar A A40
Mirage IIIE 494
Mirage IIIE 534/3-XB
Mirage F-1C 33/30-FS
Mirage F-1C 68 Special tail

Poulmic Hangar; (amongst many others)
Mirage F-1CT 252
Mirage F-1C200 206/33-FV
Jaguar A A22
Jaguar A A75
Mirage F-1CT 254
Mirage 2000C 37
Mirage 2000B 514
Mirage F-1C 224
Mirage F-1CT 258
Mirage F-1CT 245
Mirage F-1CT 264
Mirage F-1CT 251
Jaguar A A75
Jaguar A A159
Jaguar A A22
Jaguar A A24
Jagaur A A148
Jaguar A A129

Area near Poulmic Hangar
C-160H H01
C-160H H03
C-160H H02
C-160H H04
Mirage IIIR 303
MD311/312 ?
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Arjan wrote: Flightline:
Mirage 2000-5F 73/116-ES SPA 103 / EC 01.002
Also here:
TB-30: 90, 99, 113 (Cartouche D'Ore) and 117/315-YH
Mirage 2000C 95/115-KM
Hangar : Stored aircraft
TB-30 110/F-SEXV/4
Not a Cartouche a/c, so should have a normal 315-xx code.
Arrivals:
C-160R R201/64-GA ET 00.064
TBM-700 ?
105/XK
AS555AN 5468/VX
Line on the center of the runway;
Mirage F-1C Arctic MF2000 c/s?
Should be F-1CT 281 (was at Paris Le Bourget airshow a few years back).
DBR Training area;(amongst others)
Mirage 2000B 506?
515/5-OG
Poulmic Hangar; (amongst many others)
The Mirage 4 with the special red/white tail (visible from the airshow side) should be 57/CD
I also read code AY which should be 26.
On the left side of the hangar (seen from airshow side) there were 3x Mirage 4, 1 F-1CT and a blue F-1C. The latter should be 75/12-ZA but I'd really like confirmation.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Noted Outside Poulmic Hangar earlier this year (amongst some others in the North, wich I have to look up from pictures first) :

(west side)
75/12-ZA Mirage F.1C EC02.012
246/30-SE Mirage F.1CT EC03.030
24/AW Mirage IVA spec. c/s
01/-- Mirage IVP spec. c/s
53/BZ Mirage IVP fuselage
31/BD Mirage IVP
E69/314-TO AlphaJet E grey c/s
403/13-QB Mirage IIIE silver c/s

(east side)
55/CB Mirage IVP
32/BE Mirage IVA
54/CA Mirage IVP
37/5-NF M.2000C EC01.005 / C.46
38/12-ZC Mirage F.1C EC02.012
264/33-FX Mirage F.1CT

Maybe this is of some help to somebody to compare with what's been noted over the last weekend.

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