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Re: 4 Aviation Trip Greece 2015

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wamovements wrote:
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wamovements wrote:Sadly this is the best I have of them, clearly a single seat A-7 and a SEA camo RF-4E, sadly no ID. Howmany RF-4Es did they operate in this camo? as I can rule out 71762/71764 and 7491. As 71765 is still operational (was at Andravida or at QRA) only 7486 and 7508 are likely candidates for this one as all others have been seen on different locations or are in different camo. This one is here since oct12.

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Why would 71765 be on QRA or at Andravida? No RF-4s are based at Andravida and they would certainly not be on QRA.
According to commander 348 1 more RF-4 was on QRA and one RF-4 was at Andravida for static display.
The RF-4E of 348.Sq are also performing QRA-duties, and the one RF-4E in Andravida was there, because of the SOT (Weapons Tactic School).
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SG Woensdrecht wrote:
F17_114PM wrote: It is 7486. 7508 is preserved at Aktio AB.
Do you know the serial of the A-7?
It is 160857 :)

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Do you know which one was/is at Andravida?
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nellis6 wrote:Why would 71765 be on QRA or at Andravida? No RF-4s are based at Andravida and they would certainly not be on QRA.
As they do not need a Recce task ONLY, the RF's have more tasks to forfill in the HAF..
QRA is one of them!

Two samples I took during one of my visits to Larisa.
Recovery from a QRA flight. Keep attention to the load ;-)

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Paul wrote:
wamovements wrote:Why would 71765 be on QRA or at Andravida? No RF-4s are based at Andravida and they would certainly not be on QRA.
As they do not need a Recce task ONLY, the RF's have more tasks to forfill in the HAF..
QRA is one of them!

Two samples I took during one of my visits to Larisa. Keep attention to the load ;-)
Thanks, that puts it all in perspective.

For the record; you were quoting 'nellis6', not 'wamovements' ;-)

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frank kramer wrote:What strikes me about the pic of the RF-4 and the A-7 is that there always seems to be a bird on top of these preserved birds... :lol:
Those birds flying around Larissa probably think these are "Sch!jtbakken"... :twisted:
Cultuurbarbaren/Philistines... :roll:
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Nice photos Paul, did you overhear any update on the out-of-service date for the recce Phantoms perhaps?
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Trabanti wrote:Nice photos Paul, did you overhear any update on the out-of-service date for the recce Phantoms perhaps?
According commander current funds forsee withdrawal within a year. But Greece is not known for its excellent knowledge about funds so you never know :lol: :lol: :lol:
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OK, that's what I also heard at the museum in Dekelia earlier this year: "later in 2016". I was hoping plans would have changed in the meantime.. But indeed, you never know in Greece!
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Trabanti wrote:Nice photos Paul, did you overhear any update on the out-of-service date for the recce Phantoms perhaps?
According commander current funds forsee withdrawal within a year. But Greece is not known for its excellent knowledge about funds so you never know :lol: :lol: :lol:
NO update will be preform on the RF's. Main problem is the spare of ejectionseat explosives. For some years we here "this will be the last year of service, 348 will be stand down and/or the last Recce will move to 117CW". All this has been changed every year! From the 10 ops Phantoms used in a pool, some 6 are ops as of now. 2016 will have RF's flying, but IF this will be the last year... We have to wait for that. The wfu from A-7 showed us how fast thing can change...
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Any Hercules spotted during your trip Dennis? If yes serials pls.

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josephmlt wrote:Any Hercules spotted during your trip Dennis? If yes serials pls.

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Paul wrote:
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Trabanti wrote:Nice photos Paul, did you overhear any update on the out-of-service date for the recce Phantoms perhaps?
According commander current funds forsee withdrawal within a year. But Greece is not known for its excellent knowledge about funds so you never know :lol: :lol: :lol:
NO update will be preform on the RF's. Main problem is the spare of ejectionseat explosives. For some years we here "this will be the last year of service, 348 will be stand down and/or the last Recce will move to 117CW". All this has been changed every year! From the 10 ops Phantoms used in a pool, some 6 are ops as of now. 2016 will have RF's flying, but IF this will be the last year... We have to wait for that. The wfu from A-7 showed us how fast thing can change...
No more RF-4E maintenance is done at Tanagra, Phantoms that should be send to Tanagra are nowadays withdrawn from use at Larissa (e.g. 7491/7511/7519/71762/71764). All RF-4E maintenance is done by 348 MTA at Larissa. The "Pool" Paul is talking about, no longer exists. Flying activity of the RF-4Es (except for QRA) is limited to monday only.
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It's some sort of astonishing they still fly QRA with RF-s.... You should think they have enough and adequate equipment!
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Alpha Kilo One wrote:It's some sort of astonishing they still fly QRA with RF-s.... You should think they have enough and adequate equipment!
Your comment equals the commanders opinion. He said: I do not know if it is good that we still fly the RF-4E as we are the only one in Europe.
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