Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flights

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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

Post by GoldenEagle »

Nice pictures from the special guys!

I agree with Stefan, just because a normal F4 isn't ugly. My personal opinion is that the German air Force can paint like nobody and I really love the special schemes, but I also hope to shoot just a 'normal' F4 Saturday.

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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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Richard de Florennes wrote:
Stephan Lodewijks wrote:Please tell me there's Phantoms left in operational colors, cause this is turning into a circus...

Stephan
38+10 and 38+33 ARE operational colours. Just stay in the Netherlands and watch orange and grey F-16s if you are not pleased with the work of "our" Air Force here.

Thanks, Tigerspoon, for sharing these great images.
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Stephan Lodewijks wrote:Please tell me there's Phantoms left in operational colors, cause this is turning into a circus...

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Richard,
please handle everybody with respect as Stephan apparently does not like special colored aircraft. Beside this, 38+10 and 39+33 are not operational colours, as they represent the colors the Phantoms have flown in the past, just like the airliners do with their retro jets nowadays.

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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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If I remember correctly, the four 'Phinal Phantom' schemes are of a Norm 72, Norm 81, Norm 90 and the 37+01. The WTD-61 jet is a separate endeavour. Which means you are catching at least two past operational schemes, one current scheme and two special schemes plus whatever other Norm 90 jets are still around.

You're getting a variety rather than just grey, grey, grey..
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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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Macc wrote:You're getting a variety rather than just grey, grey, grey..
Well said! After many decades of normal grey Phantoms, two specials are more than welcome.
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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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The WTD61 was on it's ferry flight in it's special livery. Off course, if not going tech., it will arrive on friday morning at Wittmund together with 37+15. At Wittmund you'll only going to see one GREY Phantom during the Fly Out Party; 37+22. The others like shown in "old" operational livery + one special blue/ gold Fly Out livery. There are at least 6 grey Phantoms left, but I don't know if they will put all in the Static Display (i for myself think they'll do)

So as there are a few guys not liking our special fleet, here are a few shots of the two grey ones flying yesterday :wink:

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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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Thanks Tigerspoon, nice pics, and I especially love the grey ones!! 8) :D

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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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Awesome shots!!! I wish I could see those "circus" Phantoms, they look absolutely AWESOME!! ( I never cared much for the dull grey on grey, if only they would have had black radomes!!)

There is one paint scheme missing though, it would have phantastic if they would have pained one more F-4F in the colours of the 20th Fighter Squadron at Holloman AFB.
(Since I believe that that most, if not all, ex-HO F-4Fs are still at AMARG?)
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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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Erik_7Xi wrote:(Since I believe that that most, if not all, ex-HO F-4Fs are still at AMARG?)
Definately not all of them, since there was one on Jever dump some time ago, don't know if there are any in Germany in 1 piece.

I love the old operational coloured ones, but personally don't prefer any party colours on military aircraft. They're still Phantoms though, so any Phantom is a 1000 times better then no Phantom at all.
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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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marcel32us wrote: Definately not all of them, since there was one on Jever dump some time ago, don't know if there are any in Germany in 1 piece.

I love the old operational coloured ones, but personally don't prefer any party colours on military aircraft. They're still Phantoms though, so any Phantom is a 1000 times better then no Phantom at all.
There should be 15 of them at AMARG still - I'm not quite sure how many I saw at Holloman in October 2004, two months before they retired.

Definitely agree with you that I normally don't like special colours - I'm not a great fan of the blue/gold F-4F, though I appreciate it being an unique one-off.
However, the WTD-61 is pretty stunning though!
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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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Tigerspoon wrote:38+10
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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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I like the Circus :-)

Great shots.. And I can remember the discussion by the end of the Eighties about aircraft becoming Grey..
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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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There should be 15 of them at AMARG still - I'm not quite sure how many I saw at Holloman in October 2004, two months before they retired.
These are the ones still present on AMARG site. Extraction from official AMARG listing of June 2013

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Re: Wittmund 25-06-2013 WTD-61 and Last JG-71 Phantom Flight

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One from me

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