Viterbo (LIRV) - 2008

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Viterbo (LIRV) - 2008

Post by Melchior Timmers »

Hi all,

Seen during a perfect visit in order of appearance:

A109 MM81245 EI-868
NH90 MM81520 EI-203
CH47 MM81441 EI-836
AB206 MM80916 EI-648
AB205 MM80709 EI-338
AB205 MM80718 EI-347
AB206 MM80625 EI-564
AB206 MM80902 EI-634
AB205 MM80541 EI-289
AB206 MM80608 EI-547
AB206 MM80918 EI-650
AB206 MM80871 EI-603
AB206 MM80878 EI-610
AB206 MM80880 EI-612
AB206 MM80628 EI-567
AB205 MM80558 EI-306
AB206 MM80588 EI-527
AB205 MM80717 EI-346
NH90 MM81519 EI-202
AB206 EI-617
AB206 MM80872 EI-604
AB206 MM80639 EI-578
AB206 MM80909 EI-641
AB205 MM80707 EI-336
AB412 MM81501 EI-418
A109 MM81238 EI-861

AB206 MM80567 EI-506 Dump (shed)
AB206 MM80886 EI-618 Dump (shed)
AB206 MM80637 EI-576 Dump (shed)
A109 MM81011 EI-852 Dump (shed)
AB206 MM80586 EI-000 Dump (shed)
AB206 MM80627 EI-566 Dump (shed)
AB206 MM80641 EI-580 Dump
AB205 MM80449 EI-259 Dump
AB205 MM80447 EI-257 Dump
AB212 MM81119 EI-403 Dump

A109 MM81240 EI-863
A109 MM81233 EI-856
AB206 MM80960 EI-632
A109 MM81234 EI-857
AB2412 MM81502 EI-419
AB206 MM80576 C/N 8225
A129 MM81421 EI-951
A129 MM81424 EI-954
A109 MM81241 EI-864
A109 MM81245 EI-868
A109 MM81244 EI-867
A109 MM81242 EI-865
AB206 MM80613 EI-552
AB206 MM80606 EI-545
AB206 MM80913 EI-645
AB206 MM80622 EI-561
AB204 EI-220

AB204 EI-222
A109 MM81387 EI-833
AB412 MM81364 EI-473
AB412 MM81197 EI-454
DO228 MM62156 EI-101
NH90 MM81522 EI-205
NH90 MM81521 EI-204
CH47 MM81439 EI-834
CH47 MM81436 EI-832
AB412 MM81365 EI-474
AB412 MM81361 EI-470
AB412 MM81355 EI-464
CH47 MM81232 EI-831
CH47 MM81459 EI-838
CH47 MM81230 EI-829
CH47 MM80846 EI-824
CH47 MM80832 EI-810
AB412 MM81196 EI-453
CH47 MM81458 EI-837
CH47 MM81440 EI-835
AB47 MM80351
CH47 MM80842 EI-820
CH47 MM80835 EI-813
CH47 MM80843 EI-821
CH47 MM80830 EI-808
CH47 MM81168 EI-826
CH47 MM80844 EI-822
CH47 MM80822 EI-800
CH47 MM80826 EI-804
CH47 MM80845 EI-823
CH47 MM80827 EI-805
AB205 MM80711 EI-340

and some more preserved stuff

Of most, only codes were read (because of time)

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Post by patrick dirksen »

Hi Melchior,

Thanks for the log! A few questions:
-what date did you visit?
-was the dumped AB.212 the one lying on its side next to the two B.205s and the B.206?
-can you tell which were the nine stored Chinooks parked all together near the preserved AB.47?
Many thanks in advance!
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Hi all,

We also visited Viterbo, though on Monday 26th. The log will follow shortly as I also have some things to sort out.

Did anyone read the following on the airfield side?
1x NH.500E 208Gr (next to AB412 hangar)
1x NH.90 (in front of AB.412 hangar)
1x EH.101 MMI (arr/dep. between 11:30-12:15hrs)
1x AB.205 (behind the NH.500E, olive drap/low viz c/s)

Could the AB.205 have been E.I.340 from Melchior's log?

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patrick dirksen wrote:Hi Melchior,
-was the dumped AB.212 the one lying on its side next to the two B.205s and the B.206?
Though the request was made to Melchior I can possitivly confirm this one is indeed the AB.212 E.I.403 (w/o early 1999).

As for the stored Chinooks we have read off 8 ourselves. I'll post them later on today!

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patrick dirksen wrote:Hi Melchior,

Thanks for the log! A few questions:
-what date did you visit?
-was the dumped AB.212 the one lying on its side next to the two B.205s and the B.206?
-can you tell which were the nine stored Chinooks parked all together near the preserved AB.47?
Many thanks in advance!
Okay..I am not Melchior, but we (Cristian, Maurits, Rene and I) had a visit with them.
The visit was on Friday morning from 0900lt untill 1200lt
The dumped one lying on its side was indeed MM81119/EI-403.
The nine stored CH-47's were (from the AB47 till end..)
MM80842/EI-820
MM80835/EI-813
MM80843/EI-821
(MM80830)/EI-808
(MM81168)/EI-826
(MM80844)/EI-822
(MM80822)/EI-800
MM80828/EI-805
(MM80826)/EI-804

Hope it helps..
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Post by Elmar »

We also noted some preserved ones:

At the South Gate (Airforce one)
F-104G MM6590/3-11
MB326 MM54155/40

North Field:
AB204B MM80322/EI-222 pres at gate
AB.47G MM....... pres. near stored CH-47's
shame did not noticed did one.. don't need it.. but other will..

South Field:
AB204B MM80320/EI-220 pres between gate and flightline
AB206C MM80625/EI-564 pres near flightline

Hope it helps,
Cristian Schrik
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Post by patrick dirksen »

Thanks Sjoerd and Elmar for the info!
That leaves me with only one more question: on Friday afternoon one AB.212 was seen on the main platform to the right of the stored Chinooks (when seen from the aeroclub), parked near another Chinook. Anybody for its serial? This was the only Bell we saw outside on this side of the airbase.
Many thanks in advance!
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Did you get the opportunity to make photo's?
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roel lodder wrote:Did you get the opportunity to make photo's?
Roel :D
Ofcourse, will follow later.

on Friday afternoon one AB.212 was seen on the main platform to the right of the stored Chinooks (when seen from the aeroclub), parked near another Chinook. Anybody for its serial? This was the only Bell we saw outside on this side of the airbase.
During our visit there were two AB412s in front of the hangar, more in direction to the Do228 hangar (as seen from the aeroclub).
Next to the Chinook was a stored AB412 equiped with a special radar, this was the only bell next to the chinooks and parked with the nose facing the aeroclub:

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OK, thanks!
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MM80842/EI-820
MM80835/EI-813
MM80843/EI-821
(MM80830)/EI-808
(MM81168)/EI-826
(MM80844)/EI-822
(MM80822)/EI-800
MM80828/EI-805
(MM80826)/EI-804


MM80828 should be EI-806, we read 8.6 from outside. There are 8 CH-47s in a stored-line and these are all without rotors. EI-804 and EI-829 are parked beside this line with the old camo c/s and still have their rotors. Are these also stored?

Patrick, we read EI-453 on Saturday evening on your designated spot.

Melchior, are you sure EI-453 is stored?

Cheers,

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There are 8 CH-47s in a stored-line and these are all without rotors. EI-804 and EI-829 are parked beside this line with the old camo c/s and still have their rotors
Actually there are nine! 8 are in a row, but the ninth is a bit backwards of those, in between the others.
Patrick, we read EI-453 on Saturday evening on your designated spot
Thanks for the confirmation!
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Post by kvanos »

Actually there are nine! 8 are in a row, but the ninth is a bit backwards of those, in between the others.
Why didn't Crizz report this then? They had a base-visit.

I think you're wrong. There are 8 packed together without rotors, see also Melchior's photo, there's no room here for a ninth. And Crizz told me 804(with rotors) isn't stored which is parked next to this row together with 829(also with rotors).

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Post by Sjoerd »

Hi Klaas/Patrick,

We also noted 804 in the same section on monday, but I can't remember anymore if it had rotors or not and where it exactly was in line. 829 was not behind the eight stored ones...it had moved to the left in front of a hangar.

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Crizz wrote:I hope this helps...

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It doesn't get any clearer than this. This one is certainly not parked in the row with the 8 Chinooks. Maybe it's stored, I can't tell, allthough it looks like the upperpart of the loading-ramp is missing. By the looks of the Arabic script it has seen service in Iraq/Afghanistan and maybe it's waiting for a space in the maintenance-hangar for some attention. We'll have to wait for another report of it flying again, or not.

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