Creil (LFPC/CSF) - 2011 MIL

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Creil (LFPC/CSF) - 2011 MIL

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Seen on our way to the Salon (26-06-2011):

Mirage-3E 565 (fairly intact)
Mirage-3R (322)/TB upside down

2x CN235: 071/62-IE, 043/62-IB

1x TB30 grey
1x TB30 white (315-WL)
3x TB30 grey
Seen from the left to the right

any one for the TB30's??

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Re: Creil 26-06-2011

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Rene,

I read the 62-IB as 045. The 043 crashed in 2003!

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Re: Creil 26-06-2011

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Nilson wrote:Rene,

I read the 62-IB as 045. The 043 crashed in 2003!

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Made a brief stop here on my way to Eurocontrol/Bretigny around 18:00 and noted the following:

CN235s:

043/62-..
071
111/62-..
114
152
156/62-IQ
160/62-IS

Outside in the shelterarea on the SE side was Mirage 2000 122/103-YE. 2 Mirage IIIs are dumped or derelict on the Northern side of field of which one was identified as 565. The other one, lying upside down, was not identified by me.
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Re: Creil 26-06-2011

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043? 045?
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Re: Creil 26-06-2011

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Roel van Gestel wrote:043? 045?
Pretty sure it was 043 Roel!!! I am curious if the 'crash' of 043 in 2004 resulted in a write off!!!
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Re: Creil 26-06-2011

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Luchtvaartnieuws 17-12-2003, 0:00 uur Doden bij crash militair toestel Frankrijk
TOULOUSE – Een CASA CN-235 transporttoestel van de Franse luchtmacht is vanmiddag gecrasht in de buurt van Ariège in het zuidwesten van Frankrijk. Daarbij zijn zeven militairen om het leven gekomen, zo melden Franse media. Volgens een woordvoerder van de Franse overheid waren onder de omgekomen militairen ook de bemanningsleden van het toestel. Een groep parachutisten, die aan boord waren van de trainingsvlucht, wisten het toestel te verlaten toen het in de problemen kwam. De woordvoerder zei tevens dat in het gebied waar het toestel neerstortte vaker ongelukken gebeuren. “Dit ongeluk is een tragische herinnering aan het feit dat het beroep van militair nog steeds risico’s bevat.” De laatste jaren zijn vaker ongelukken gebeurd met toestellen van het type CASA CN-235; in 2001 crashten 4 exemplaren: 2 van de Turkse luchtmacht, 1 van de Turkse marine en 1 van de Spaanse regionale maatschappij Binter Méditerraneo. Daarbij waren in totaal 45 slachtoffers te betreuren. Wat de oorzaak van de crash in Frankrijk is wordt nog onderzocht.
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Status: Preliminary
Date: 17 DEC 2003
Time: ca 10:45
Type: CASA 235M-200
Operator: L'Armée de L'Air
Registration: 043/F-RAIA
C/n / msn: 43
First flight: 1990
Crew: Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4
Passengers: Fatalities: 3 / Occupants:
Total: Fatalities: 7 / Occupants:
Airplane damage: Written off
Airplane fate: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: near Suc-et-Sentenac (France)
Phase: En route (ENR)
Nature: Military
Departure airport: Toulouse-Francazal Airport (LFBF), France
Destination airport: ?
Narrative:
The CASA departed Toulouse-Francazal to drop parachutists in the area of Foix. The airplane crashed into Pic de Pioulou, killing all aboard. Reportedly a number of parachutists had already left the plane.
Lijkt me niet dat 043 herbouwd is.

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Re: Creil 26-06-2011

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Status: Preliminary
Date: 17 DEC 2003
Time: ca 10:45
Type: CASA 235M-200
Operator: L'Armée de L'Air
Registration: 043/F-RAIA
C/n / msn: 43
First flight: 1990
Crew: Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4
Passengers: Fatalities: 3 / Occupants:
Total: Fatalities: 7 / Occupants:
Airplane damage: Written off
Airplane fate: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: near Suc-et-Sentenac (France)
Phase: En route (ENR)
Nature: Military
Departure airport: Toulouse-Francazal Airport (LFBF), France
Destination airport: ?
Narrative:
The CASA departed Toulouse-Francazal to drop parachutists in the area of Foix. The airplane crashed into Pic de Pioulou, killing all aboard. Reportedly a number of parachutists had already left the plane.
Lijkt me niet dat 043 herbouwd is.

Pieter[/quote]

Not likely. It seems more likely that the serial in the above report is incorrect.....or that I screwed up in (trying to) reading it off....
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Re: Creil (LFPC/CSF) - 2011 MIL

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Hello,

Seen at Creil Saturday 22-10-2011 in the afternoon (16.30h) when we drove back from Le Bourget/Dugny

114/62-IJ
123/62-IM
165/62-IT

In front of the 62-IT there was also a CN235 in brand new painting. We couldn't read off this one, because of the sunlight.

The two Mirage3, 322 and 565, are still here

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Re: Creil (LFPC/CSF) - 2011 MIL

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Seen at Creil Saturday 22 Oct at 0815-0830

Creil 22/10
114/IJ CN235
123/IM CN235
137/IN CN235
152/IP CN235
158/IR CN235
165/IT CN235
322/TB Mirage III (upside down)
565 Mirage III

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Re: Creil (LFPC/CSF) - 2011 MIL

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ScottishSpotter wrote:Seen at Creil Saturday 22 Oct at 0815-0830

Creil 22/10
114/IJ CN235
123/IM CN235
137/IN CN235
152/IP CN235
158/IR CN235
165/IT CN235
322/TB Mirage III (upside down)
565 Mirage III

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Hello Graham,

Could you tell which CN235 was parked in front off the "IT"? It had a kind of new painting c/s?

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