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Two extra ones beside 09-0626, 0649 and 0654 on 27 March were 09-0635 and 0661 which make eight aircraft.raameagle wrote:On 16 July I logged the following at KOKC.
09-0626, 0637, 0649, 0654, 0656 and 0681
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Mark
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https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national ... n-to-beginNext phase of Canadian special forces aircraft project to begin soon
Ottawa Citizen
Updated: August 8, 2019
The next phase of the purchase of new surveillance aircraft for Canadian special forces
is expected to begin soon with the request for bids for long-term maintenance of the planes.
Canadian special forces will receive three new surveillance aircraft from the U.S. with the planes expected to arrive in 2022.
A request for bids from Canadian firms to provide in-service support is to be released by the end of the summer.
The purchase of the aircraft has raised questions about why the cost is substantially more
than what the U.S. Air Force spends to buy the same or similar aircraft.
The three Beechcraft King Air planes, to be based at CFB Trenton in Ontario,
will be outfitted with sensors and equipment to intercept cell phone and other electronic transmissions.
Canadian special forces and, potentially, other government departments
will use them for missions overseas and in Canada.
The agreement for the aircraft was finalized on April 26 with the U.S. government.
Three aircraft and equipment will be delivered in the spring of 2022, the Canadian Forces noted.
The agreement signed with the U.S. government is for $188 million (CAN).
The U.S. Air Force lists the cost of the MC-12W surveillance aircraft as $17 million each or around $23 million Canadian.
That includes communications/sensors and modification of the aircraft for that equipment.
So three aircraft should cost in total about $70 million Canadian.
At first it was unclear why Canada was paying more than double what the U.S. spends on the same planes.
But the Department of National Defence now says the extra cost includes more powerful engines and a modernized cockpit.
“As such, the cost for this new variant of the aircraft is higher than previous models,” the DND added in a statement.
Also included in the overall agreement is two years of field service support and
a technical data package which will enable the Canadian government to solicit bids from domestic firms to maintain the planes,
according to the DND.
No breakdown of the various costs was provided.
The federal government will solicit bids for the in-service support contract which will have the potential to cover a 23-year period.
“The value of potential maintenance contracts is not yet known,” according to the DND.
A draft request for proposals for the in-service support portion has been released with a final RFP expected sometime in the summer.
No specific date was provided.
AK01 wrote:Time for a new update i think.
Serial Hex Code Ln Current Type C/n Based Notes
08-0293 AE2922 oct-16 WPAFB Museum USAF MC12W FL-293 dd to Wright Patterson Museum 26oct16
08-0309 AE2920 jul-19 ?? USAF MC12W FL-309 Stored KGVT 10/2015 till 1/2019, then KGVT> KDSM/ Elliot Aviation 21feb19 as Airforce 309.Dd KDSM>KGVT 11jul19 as Same90. Still on USAF inventory, so not to US Army as per Scramble dbase! Might go to OK city?
08-0329 AE2923 jul-19 E/305MIB Army MC12W FL-329 Based Ft Huachuca
08-0336 AE291F jul-19 E/305MIB Army MC12W FL-336 Based Ft Huachuca
08-0353 AE2921 may-19 ?? USAF MC12W FL-353 Stored KGVT 11/2015 till 1/2019, then KGVT> KDSM/ Elliot Aviation 29jan19 as Airforce 353, KDSM/KGVT 07may19 as Same88.Still on USAF inventory, so not to US Army as per Scramble dbase! Might go to OK city?
08-0376 AE291E may-19 NVESD Army MC12W FL-376 Based Davison AAF Anvis callsign. AE291E was used by 09-0640 jul-18, however 09-0640 is silll in the Middle East.
12-00278 AE53FC jul-19 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-1 FL-388 Based Ft Hood/TX jul-19 Ronin callsign
12-00279 AE53FB aug-18 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-1 FL-416 Based Ft Hood/TX dd 19/6/19 KGVT> Ft Hood/TX after mods.
12-00280 AE53FA mar-18 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-1 FL-449 Ronin72 mar-18 to MEA, still there jul-19
12-00281 or 11-00281? AE53FD jul-19 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-1 FL-450 Based Ft Hood/TX jul-19 Ronin c/s
11-00282 AE53FE jul-19 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-1 FL-456 Based Ft Hood/TX
08-0462 AE2924 na na MC12W FL-462 To N911CA 2017
09-0546 AE2F56 jun-18 137thARW/ OK ANG??? USAF MC12W FL-546 JM08 jun-18 to MEA, still there may-2019.
09-0623 AE2F57 oct-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-623 Based Oklahoma City To KGVT 28aug18 for modification/ maintenance but again OK City >KGVT 15/7/19
09-0624 AE2F58 jun-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-624 Based Oklahoma City JM10 jun-18 to MEA, still there may-19
09-0625 AE2F59 jul-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-625 Based Oklahoma City from MEA to Conus jun-18, JM11 jul-18 back to MEA, still there jul-19
09-0626 AE2F5A jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-626 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr jul-19
09-0628 AE2F5B jun-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-628 Based Oklahoma City JM13 to MEA jun-19
09-0635 AE2F5C may-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-635 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr mar-19
09-0637 AE2F5D jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-637 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr jul-19
09-0639 AE2F5E mar-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-639 Based Oklahoma City PL16 mar-18to MEA, still there may-19
09-0640 AE2F5F + AE291E jul-18 E/305MIB? Army MC12W FL-640 Based Ft Huachuca AE291E was 09-0640 Prestwick jul-18 going to the MEA as JM17. Still there, but in aug-18 08-00376 was also using AE291E.Intel cs in Conus.
09-0641 AE2F60 aug-18 137thARW/ OK ANG??? USAF MC12W FL-641 Based Oklahoma City JM18 , aug-18 OK City> MEA, still there may-19
09-0642 AE2F61 jul-19 224th MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-642 Based Hunter/ GA Shady jul-19
09-0644 AE2F62 jul-19 E/305MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-644 Based Ft Huachuca Intel cs jul-19
09-00646 AE2F63 oct-18 224th MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-646 Based Ft Hood/TX Conus> MEA oct-18 as Elvis28. 30-oct-18 as Trick02 over Iraq.
09-0647 AE2F64 jun-17 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-647 Based Oklahoma City PL22 jun-17 to MEA, still there jul-19.
09-0648 AE2F65 may-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-648 Based Oklahoma City JM26 may-18 to MEA, still there jul-19
09-0649 AE2F66 jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-649 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr jul-19
09-0654 AE2F67 jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-654 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr jul-19
09-0655 AE2F68 jun-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-655 Based Oklahoma City PL23 apr-18 to MEA, ln jun-18 TLV, still there jul-19.
09-0656 AE2F69 jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-656 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr jul-19
09-0659 AE2F6A sep-17 ??? Army MC12W/S, no S-2 FL-659 Based Laurinburg apt? sep 2017 Conus> MEA, still there jul-19.
09-0660 AE2F6B jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-660 Based Oklahoma City JM29 aug-18 to Conus, 15-jan-19 to KGVT as Same90, 24/7/19 KGVT> OK
09-0661 AE2F6C jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-661 Based Oklahoma City Conus> MEA jul-19
09-0662 AE2F6D mar-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-662 Based Oklahoma City PL31 mar-18 to MEA, still there jul-19.
13-00283 AE5623 jul-19 B/3-214Avn Army Be350ER FL-663 Based Ft Hood/TX
09-0676 AE2F6E w/o apr-13 USAF MC12W FL-676
09-0678 AE2F6F jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-678 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr jul-19
09-0681 AE2F70 jul-19 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-681 Based Oklahoma City Igloo/ Soonr mar-19
09-0684 AE2F71 aug-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-684 Based Oklahoma City JM35 aug-18 Conus> MEA, still there jul-19
09-0685 AE2F72 apr-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-685 Based Oklahoma City PL36 apr-18 Conus> MEA, still there jul-19.
09-0686 AE2F73 apr-18 137thARW/ OK ANG USAF MC12W FL-686 Based Oklahoma City PL37 apr-18 Conus> MEA, still there jul-19.
11-00283 AE53FF mar-18 B/3-214Avn Army Be350ER FL-716 Based Ft Hood/TX Ronin63 mar-18 to MEA, still there jul-19
10-0728 AE4C5E jul-19 E/305MIB Army MC12W FL-728 Based Ft Huachuca Intel cs jul-19
10-0729 AE4C5F AE4C1F jul-19 E/305MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-729 Based Ft Huachuca Intel cs jul-19
10-0730 AE4C60 jul-19 E/305MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-730 Based Ft Huachuca Intel cs jul-19
11-00265 AE58B4 oct-18 224th MIB Army MC12S FL-731 Based Hunter/GA Deployed AFRICOM (Nouakchott) oct-18 as Elvis24, still there jul-19
11-00266 AE58B6 jul-19 224th MIB Army MC12S FL-734 Based Hunter/GA Deployed Guatamala jul-19
11-00267 AE58B7 jul-19 224th MIB Army MC12S-2? FL-736 Based Hunter/GA Elvis09 Africom> EDDS 28/7/19 > Conus
11-00289 AE4C63 jul-19 224th MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-737 Based Hunter/GA Shady cs jul-19
11-00268 AE58B5 jul-19 224th MIB Army MC12S FL-738 Based Hunter/GA Elvis09 Conus> EDDS> Africom jul-19
10-0739 AE4C61 jun-19 E/305MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-739 Based Ft Huachuca dd KGVT>KHUA 20/6/19
10-0742 AE4C62 mar-18 224th MIB Army MC12S-2 FL-742 Based Hunter/GA Elvis24 Conus> MEA in mar-18. still there jul-19
11-00284 AE5402 jul-17 ?? Army MC12S-3 FL-757 Based Redstone before deployment. Dragon84 to Afghanistan jul-17, still there jul-19.
11-00285 AE5403 oct-18 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-3 FL-758 Based Ft Hood/TX Deployed Africom oct-18 as Ronin29, still there jul-19.
12-00277 AE5752 jul-19 ATSCOM/ Ft Rucker Army C12S FL-769 Based Ft Rucker/AL
11-00286 AE5A42 jul-19 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-3 FL-780 Based Ft Hood/TX
13-00282 AE5622 jul-17 Army MC12S-3 FL-797 Based Redstone before deployment. Dragon82 to Afghanistan jul-17, still there jul-19?
11-00287 AE5C92 may-18 B/3-214Avn Army MC12S-3 FL-834 Based Ft Hood/TX Ronin69 may-18, nn afterwards. Only 1 flight after delivery, stored? Same situation jul-19
I am aware that the OK ANG should not have so many MC12W's in it's inventory, they claim to have 8. However most if not all have been noted using Sooner callsign over the last year.
Pieter,
https://defence-blog.com/us-armys-marss ... f-service/ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND, MD, UNITED STATES
01.28.2022
The U.S. Army ceased missions of the final three aircraft
in the long history of
the Medium Altitude Reconnaissance and Surveillance System (MARSS) Quick Reaction Capability (QRC) fleet on Sept. 30, 2021.
Beginning with MARSS 1 supporting U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) in the early 2000s,
the Project Director Sensors-Aerial Intelligence (PD SAI) built 20 MARSS aircraft
to support aerial intelligence, reconnaissance and surveillance (ISR) missions with deployments to sites around the world.
The MARSS aircraft offered support in U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM)
and U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) in U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM)
as well as peacekeeping missions in U.S. European Command (EUCOM).
Although the specific sensors of the MARSS QRCs changed over the approximate 20 years of service
to meet emerging threats and mission needs,
the principal capabilities of the fleet included signals intelligence (SIGINT), full-motion video (FMV), and high resolution imagery (HRI) sensors.
With the drawdown of other Army assets in CENTCOM early in 2021
and the resulting divestment of the seven MARSS aircraft deployed there in support of INSCOM,
the three MARSS aircraft supporting SOCOM operations in CENTCOM
became the last three operational assets in the MARSS fleet until complete operations ceased in the fall of 2021.
Modified from commercial King Air 300 aircraft, dating back to 2009,
the final three aircraft provided SOCOM with operational support for about 90 missions per month
resulting in more than 130,000 flying hours at the time of their retirement.
The final aircraft are currently in the Continental United States (CONUS)
undergoing de-modification to remove all the aerial ISR equipment.
The aircraft will officially retire from U.S. military service by March 2022.
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