Dutch defence cutbacks: F16s reduced, GULF 4 + ship sold,etc

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Dutch defence cutbacks: F16s reduced, GULF 4 + ship sold,etc

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... oorman.jpg
Aircraft carried: Up to 6 x NH90 with blades folded or 2 x Chinook with blades spread.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Door ... pport_ship

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4492/Nederlan ... f-is.dhtml
which can be translated through
http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... f-is.dhtml

Seven F-16s would be cut back in these plans. There are also strong rumours Gulfstream IV V-11 of Eindhoven's 334 Squadron may be taken out of service.
We will know more after Tuesday the 10th of September.
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Re: Dutch defence cutback plans: F16s reduced, new ship sold

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Stratofreighter wrote:We will know more after Tuesday the 10th of September.
+7 days :wink: (third Tuesday of September is 'Prinsjesdag')
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Re: Dutch defence cutback plans: F16s reduced, new ship sold

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According to the 'Dagblad van het Noorden' the Johan Willem Frisokazerne will be closed. The residing Air Manoeuvre Brigade bataljon will move to Leeuwarden! It seems that at least the future of Leeuwarden as MOB is secured.
Link: http://www.dvhn.nl/nieuws/drenthe/artic ... n-sneuvelt
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Indeed secured as an army base like dglc at De Peel! So please don't make conclusions yet.

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It could mean that at least one runway will be left operational, able to accommodate Hercules and helikopters that is.
But the local spotters would probably like to keep "Fighter Town, Fryslan".
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Belgium is looking for a new logistical support ship to replace the old BNS Godetia (witch helideck is not capable of supporting an NH90).
perhaps the Dutch should make an offer :)
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Witches on the deck is always a pain in the a.. :wink:
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Apparently Canada is interested in acquiring the "Karel Doorman"... :|
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Re: Dutch defence cutback plans: F16s reduced, new ship sold

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Stratofreighter wrote:Apparently Canada is interested in acquiring the "Karel Doorman"... :|
And Germany has been mentioned as a country with which negotiations were at a concluding stage for more than a month already. As we all know, this would mean Holland will end up paying for a lot of things, more than what they get paid for the deal from their neighbours #orion
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Re: Dutch defence cutback plans: F16s reduced, new ship sold

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Well, "today is D-day"... :(

The https://www.facebook.com/PhotoflightSoesterbergRnlaf
last Monday already photographed all three Dutch military (K)DC-10s "in flight",
and they did the same with the Gulfstream 4 V-11 (her days are really numbered now because of the upcoming cuts) , Dornier Do-228 plus KDC-10.
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Re: Dutch defence cutbacks: F16s reduced, GULF 4 + ship sold

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Nog een squadron F-16's minder op Leeuwarden in 2016

Uit de miljoennota Defensie plannen;
In samenhang met de reductie van het aantal operationele F-16’s wordt
het aantal squadrons verkleind van vier naar drie, één op de vliegbasis
Leeuwarden en twee op Volkel. Als gevolg daarvan wordt vliegbasis
Leeuwarden omgevormd van een Main Operating Base (MOB) naar
een Deployed Operating Base (DOB) die wordt aangestuurd en
ondersteund vanaf de vliegbasis Volkel. Dat traject wordt per 1 januari
2014 ter hand genomen en moet op 1 januari 2016 zijn beslag hebben
gekregen. Volkel en Leeuwarden blijven de twee Nederlandse
jachtvliegbases, onder andere vanwege de benodigde geluidsruimte
en de noodzaak voor uitwijkhavens.
Maar voor de toekomst lijkt me dit Leeuwarden niet goed

Per 1 januari 2014 wordt de Gulfstream stilgezet en vervolgens
afgestoten. Een groot deel van de transportbehoefte kan worden
vervuld door gebruik te maken van lijnvluchten. In een kleiner deel van
de benodigde reizen wordt voorzien door inhuur.
Andere projecten zijn de budgeten verlaagd of geschrapt
er wordt niet gesproken over update/vervanging CH-47D
of de uitfasering AB.412/AS.532

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Re: Dutch defence cutbacks: F16s reduced, GULF 4 + ship sold

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kan ik die miljoenennota ergens online vinden?
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Re: Dutch defence cutbacks: F16s reduced, GULF 4 + ship sold

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Nielis wrote:kan ik die miljoenennota ergens online vinden?
http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen ... dagstukken

Met veel links

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Re: Dutch defence cutbacks: F16s reduced, GULF 4 + ship sold

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er wordt niet gesproken over update/vervanging CH-47D
Correctie op mijn eigen opmerking

In de toelichting materiaal overzicht
Wordt wel aangegeven dat de Chinooks vervangen moeten worden.
project is alleen verschoven van 2014-2018 naar 2016-2020.
Project wordt mogelijk volgend jaar gestart.

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Re: Dutch defence cutbacks: F16s reduced, GULF 4 + ship sold

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Nielis wrote:kan ik die miljoenennota ergens online vinden?
Direct is -> here!

Edit1: Is indeed 2012/2013 version (however included newer information
Edit2: 2013/2014 version
Edit3: Thanks Stefan :wink:
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