Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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two delivery flights are presently in the air
G120TP D-EGAR and D-EGAQ. At the moment westbound heading overhead french airspace.
They departed from Memmingen, oviously because of the bad weather and or de-icing.

Unfortunately I have no idea for which AirForce/customer they will go.
Mindelheim is quite difficult for spotters, there are days/weeks without any activity an suddenly the delivery takes place.

Hopefully someone sees them in France or elsewhere, when they stop for fuel.
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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Could be two Ecuador machines. I've already posted a message on Fightercontrol when the make a stop in the UK/Ireland. Someone could check the c/n for these machines. Apparently underway to Prestwick.
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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thanks! Yes I just got confirmation should be two Ecuador aircraft. Hopefully they are able to check the plate in Prestwick...
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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D-EGAQ - c/n 11173
D-EGAR - c/n 11174
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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D-ETPN, PQ started their delivery flight yesterday from here via LGIR-HEGN to somewhere further east....
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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LOG Mindelheim 24/03/2022
I noticed some flying activity here on ADSB this week and I decided to pay a visit and have a look. It was not bad at all...
The Egyptian G115 was a nice surprise and was obviously here for maintenance. The Kenyan and Bangladesh aircraft looked ready for delivery and I think they will leave soon.
For some pictures please click on this link:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ca3f5yc3aJ5Qqb7X7

54+38 A400M Lw/LTG62 low level overflight after departure from Memmingen
6810 G115EG Egypt AF (towed outside of maintenance hangar for engine test)
Z.... Vigilant T.1 RAF stored dismantled in a corner of hangar H1
D-CDLR G.850 Strato 2C preserved
D-EGAR G120TP CAE (on rework inside hangar H1/1). this one is interesting. It was delivered as N193TP in 2016. Either this is a new aircraft or it received its former registration again. Anyway it has full CAE colours and same colourscheme as the original D-EGAR.
D-EGCK G.115C inside maintenance hangar (c/n 82066)
[D-EGVX] G.120TP Bangladesh AF (testflight) in the usual white/red colours and small Bangladeshi flag near the cockpit. c/n 11192 on a sticker.
in hangar 4/1 were two complete unidentified G120TP. One was all white, another in red/white colours but slightly different to that worn on D-EGVX. Furthermore several red and white parts of other aircraft. In the final assembly hangar H3 (where D-EGVX was towed outside) were two other Bangladesh AF G120TP, but it was not possible to read the sticker with the c/n and the test registration was not readable as well.
D-ERAF G115E Grob aircraft ( towed outside)
D-ESAI G.120A Grob aircraft (c/n 85025)
D-ETPI G120TP Grob Aircraft (towed outside), c/n 11001
[D-ETPJ] G120TP Kenya AF towed outside. C/n 11160 on sticker
[D-ETPP] G120TP Kenya AF (two checkflights, already with Kenyan crew). C/n 11162 clearly visible on sticker
D-EZFH Cessna 182T local flight
D-FTBG G.160 Ranger stored near main entrance of factory
D-HEHB Bell 206L Grob Aircraft (in orange company colours), parked inside hangar H1
OE-AAF G.115A (inside hangar) (c/n 8056)
OE-ATG G.120TP Grob Aircraft (inside hangar)
OE-KIP Cessna T207A Grob Aircraft inside "museum" hangar
OE-XIP Bell 407 Grob Aircraft (towed outside of hangar H2 for engine test)
SP-0088 G.109B (inside hangar H2/1, obviously for maintenance)
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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another delivery flight of a G120TP is in the air at the moment:
D-EGAQ presently heading south east near Zadar in Croatian airspace.
Unfortunately I totally missed that one so I have no clue on its identity nor the Air Force for which it is destined.
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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LOG Mindelheim 21/09/2022

hangar 1:
[D-ETPP] G120TP Kenya AF (c/n 11162)
D-KHTB G109

hangar 2 (Service/Reparatur
closed

hangar 4 (Endmontage/final assembly
[D-EGVX] G120TP Bangladesh AF
[D-E...] G120TP Bangladesh AF
--- G120TP ???? all orange colours
--- G120TP ???? all orange colours

hangar 5:
D-FHHH G520T Egrett H3 Grob Aerospace
[D-EZZL] G120TP Bangladesh AF c/n 11190
[D-EZZ.] G120TP Bangladesh AF

Flightline
D-ETPG G120TP H3 Grob Aerospace (c/n 11024)
[D-ETPJ] G120TP Kenya AF, local flight (pilot training), c/n 11160
[D-ETPN] G120TP ???? white colours with red/black arrows, later towed into H3 (Flugerprobung/Flight test) c/n 11161
[D-ETPQ] G120TP ???? white colours with red/black arrows, later towed into H3 (Flugerprobung/Flight test)
[D-EZZK] G120TP Bangladesh AF, local flight (c/n 11201)
[D-EZZQ] G120TP Bangladesh AF c/n 11193, later towed into H3 (Flugerprobung/Flight test)
[D-EZZR] G120TP Bangladesh AF c/n 11194, later towed into H3 (Flugerprobung/Flight test)
OE-ATG G120TP H3 Grob Aerospace Flight Training, local flight

The last aircraft for Bangladesh (12 units) are now ready or almost ready and I expect delivery in due course.
The two G120TP D-ETPN and D-ETPQ were in complete different colours compared to the others. Both of them were used for a promotion flight to Egypt in spring 2022. Unfortunately it is not clear to which customer they will go.
A bit of a mystery are the two all over orange G120TP which were noted unmarked in the final assembly hangar. Maybe they are the first aircraft for Sweden, but that is pure speculation.
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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Recently, six BAF Grobs were delivered, del dates are mostly the date of aerial entry into Bangladesh (as per transponder):
D-EZZL, del 07nov22
D-EZZN, del 11nov22
D-EZZQ, del 07nov22
D-EZZR, del 27oct22
D-EZZU, del 07nov22
D-EZZW, del 29oct22
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And yes, the orange ones are for Sweden :-)
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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Further to the last post:
Bangladesh
12 G120TP for Bangladesh Air Force were here by the end of October and 6 started their delivery flight on 02/11 and 03/11 (first stop was Heraklion in Greece):
D-EZZP (c/n 11192) departed 02/11
D-EZZQ (c/n 11193) departed 02/11
D-EZZS (c/n 11195) departed 02/11
D-EZZL (c/n 11190) departed 03/11
D-EZZN (C/n 11191) departed 03/11
D-EZZU (c/n 11196) departed 03/11
If the Bangladeshis do not change their way of serialling them, they will get serials 1192, 1193 etc according their c/n.

These 6 were confirmed as departing Mindelheim: the ones from 03/11 visually at Mindelheim and the other three were noted departing on 02/11 virtually on ADSB in one group. According to EvDs last post, at least two others left earlier in October (seems I missed them...): D-EZZR and D-EZZW

The following were noted in September:
D-EZZR (c/n 11194)
D-…. (c/n 11197) (noted without test registration in September)
D-EZZK (c/n 11201)
D-…. (c/n 11202) (noted without test registration in September)
I think D-EZZW is 11197 (D-EZZW would fill the gap)

So to conclude, of the 24 aircraft on order 22 were identified. Actually I do not know if they are still at Mindelheim but if weather permits I plan to pay a visit next week and check if any are still there.

Sweden
Of the seven aircraft on order, so far at least three are complete on the final assembly line and the first one is flying since last week:
D-ETPR (already flying)
D-ETPT
No details on c/n so far, but ETPR should be 11198
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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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Serials of the first three Swedish aircraft have been confirmed as 40198, 40199 and 40200.
First aircraft was noted as D-ETPR, tactical code 98 already painted on the tail.
Looking at the serials it is safe to assume the c/ns are 1198, 1199 and 1200.

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Re: Mindelheim / Mattsies (EDMN) 2022 CIV/MIL

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LOG Mindelheim 17/11/2022
[D-ETPR]/98 G.120TP Swedish AF (c/n 11198) returned from a testflight just as a arrived and was put into the hangar very soon after.
After that it was very quiet and within two hours no more action on the airfield. All hangars firmly closed and only thing noted was based G120TP OE-AGT through side windows of the hangar
So, no confirmation if any Bangladesh aircraft are still there but I somehow think they are all gone.
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