Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Hello

Vandaag ook de FA7X PHGWS opgestegen en meteen omgedraaid bij Leiden.

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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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27-04-2020: Martinair/KLM B744F returning - turned over Aegean Sea:

- MP8911 KLM Cargo AMS 10.17 - CAI 14.10 B744F PH-CKB

https://www.flightradar24.com/MPH8911/2469b07a
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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XYZ wrote:27-04-2020: Martinair/KLM B744F returning - turned over Aegean Sea:

- MP8911 KLM Cargo AMS 10.17 - CAI 14.10 B744F PH-CKB

https://www.flightradar24.com/MPH8911/2469b07a
I heared them on LiveATC.net.
Crew told AMS ATC: "it is for pure operational reasons that we have to return”.
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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EBBR wrote:
XYZ wrote:27-04-2020: Martinair/KLM B744F returning - turned over Aegean Sea:

- MP8911 KLM Cargo AMS 10.17 - CAI 14.10 B744F PH-CKB

https://www.flightradar24.com/MPH8911/2469b07a
I heared them on LiveATC.net.
Crew told AMS ATC: "it is for pure operational reasons that we have to return”.
That's a bit of a trap in cases like thise. There have been many cases where crews mentioned this while in fact they were technical but it has a operational consequence in terms of non-dispatchable from an outstation.
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Arjenp wrote:
EBBR wrote:
XYZ wrote:27-04-2020: Martinair/KLM B744F returning - turned over Aegean Sea:

- MP8911 KLM Cargo AMS 10.17 - CAI 14.10 B744F PH-CKB

https://www.flightradar24.com/MPH8911/2469b07a
I heared them on LiveATC.net.
Crew told AMS ATC: "it is for pure operational reasons that we have to return”.
That's a bit of a trap in cases like thise. There have been many cases where crews mentioned this while in fact they were technical but it has a operational consequence in terms of non-dispatchable from an outstation.
Indeed: it could have been a loading document or permits error. Or it could have been a small technical issue that allows them to continue the flight, but which would forbit to take off again after landing. And then OPS ask them to return to Schiphol: that's a lot easier and cheaper then sending KLM engineers to Cairo to fix the aircraft.
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Re: EHAM 03-05-2020

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09.35 - Lufthansa E190 D-AECG missed approach?

- https://www.flightradar24.com/DLH3MM/2470d737
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Re: EHAM 03-05-2020

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XYZ wrote:09.35 - Lufthansa E190 D-AECG missed approach?
https://www.flightradar24.com/DLH3MM/2470d737
The above FR24 link shows they had a high speed during the first landing attempt:
1st attempt: at 50 ft : ground speed 148 kts
2nd attempt: at 225 ft: ground speed 125 kts
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Re: EHAM 04-05-2020

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PH-MPS onderweg naar CAI draait net om boven Slovenië en komt terug...
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Re: EHAM 04-05-2020

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Sjaak wrote:PH-MPS onderweg naar CAI draait net om boven Slovenië en komt terug...
Second time in 2x weeks for KL/MP B747F AMS-CAI, is it for operational reasons again?
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Re: EHAM 12-05-2020

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DHL/EAT BCS1443 757-223PCF G-DHKR broke off its approach to Polderbaan for a 2nd attempt:

https://www.flightradar24.com/BCS1443/247d0331
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Re: EHAM 12-05-2020

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XYZ wrote:DHL/EAT BCS1443 757-223PCF G-DHKR broke off its approach to Polderbaan for a 2nd attempt:

https://www.flightradar24.com/BCS1443/247d0331
Graag dit soort berichten hier plaatsen ipv in de dagtopics ;)
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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23 May 2020:

- KL1601 KLC E190 PH-EZD AMS-FCO returning to AMS:

https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM81K/248d44ed
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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XYZ wrote:23 May 2020:

- KL1601 KLC E190 PH-EZD AMS-FCO returning to AMS:

https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM81K/248d44ed
Whats the reason?
They did not do a usual approach for the 18R.(below 2000ft over Amsterdam and Zaandam)
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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pilot said due to technical issue the plane could not accept icing conditions and therefore was not allowed Rome after landing. So nothing special...
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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...somewhat more... :|
Incident: KLM Cityhopper E190 near Amsterdam on May 23rd 2020, anti ice leak
http://avherald.com/h?article=4d7b8f43&opt=0
KLM E190 Suffers Anti-Ice Leak In Wing Prompting Amsterdam Return
https://simpleflying.com/klm-e190-anti-ice-leak/
:roll: :loud: :|
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