The 'black' USAF C-32Bs

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Re: The 'black' USAF C-32Bs

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n5205e00421 wrote:An aircraft does not transmit its serial/registration on Mode-S/ADS-B, only its hexcode. It is up to a receiver or website to show the correct serial for that hexcode.
Well put!
If everyone understood this things would become a lot easier!
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Re: The 'black' USAF C-32Bs

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n5205e00421 wrote:The theory still fits with four frames, the fourth being 02-4452 that flew Ramstein-STR-USA on 27/7 followed by local training at McGuire.

Short version:

McGuire-based:
00-9001 c/n 25494
02-4452 c/n 25493 Reported as temporarily regd 98-6006 before 2002. No pics online though.

Eglin-based:
N226G c/n 25491, 13+17(L) windows, big scuff plates below doors
N610G c/n 29304, 12+19(L) windows, small scuff plates below doors
These two frames have both used serials 99-6143 and 02-5001 interchangably on militairy missions until 2013.
Thereafter 99-6143 was always N226G, re-used serial 98-6006 was always N610G, and 02-5001 was still used on both frames.
As of may 2018 98-6006 disappeared, 99-6143 was always N226G, and 02-5001 was always N610G.
See previous page for external differences.
Thanks for the explanation... so four airframes.
And none of them have been changing for the past two years.

So 99-6143 which visited Schiphol last year was N226G.

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Hi all,

Just to add another C-32B noted Westbound over South Wales on 31st August 2020. (Details from ADSB)

AE0449 02-4452 STILT76 (ex Ramstein?)

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Hi,

AE0433 02-5001 RCH588 noted this afternoon 11/09/2020 on flight radar over Eire en route Stateside. Seemed to be ex Stuttgart

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Not sure if this can be helpfull (or if it is common knowledge) but I just noticed the following from my personal Mode-s logs:

AE0443: Always tactical callsign in 7x series (the latter I believe is common knowledge)
AE0449: Always tactical callsign in 7x series (the latter I believe is common knowledge)
AE0433: Always as RCH58x or RCH59x
AE0446: Always as RCH58x, but admittingly in 2014 logged as EMMA91

I do have seen the latter two with a tactical callsign, but in my opinion those are a less common feature.
Again, not sure if this is of any help, but thought I'd share it anyway.
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As it's related, I think, to the black C-32Bs....I heard RCH581 departed KNGU (Chambers Field, Norfolk NAS) two days ago 29-Oct @0920z. The only track that correlates was a Gulf 5 which seems to have been N800PM, which has been visiting the same places as the 'Eglin' C-32Bs. I'll start another topic with the data.
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joost wrote: 22 Oct 2020, 17:36
AE0446: Always as RCH58x, but admittingly in 2014 logged as EMMA91
AE0446 was flying yesterday as 'ANON.' https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae0446 KNZY-NAS Pensacola

It flew in and out right past my living room window and I missed it both ways.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/18842924@N03/
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Some twitter posts report 02-5001 now using miscode 800433 (an Indian code that used to belong to SpiceJet B738 VT-SPS, now Pegasus TC-CPR).

https://twitter.com/AircraftSpots/statu ... 4367757313
https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad/status/ ... 9499963397

ADSB-exchange and Planefinder flight history of this hexcode show at least some domestic missions on 21 ~ 24-aug-2020, 30-sep-2020, 18-nov-2020, and an earlier Middle East mission on 10-sep-2020. In between the correct hexcode AE0433 is still being used so it might just be that one of the transponder boxes is inadvertently miscoded...as only the first two characters (4 out of 24 bits) are incorrect.

Edit: first appearance of this miscode seems to be on 27-jun-2020, and it happens rougly twice a month on random flight legs...probably not intentional.

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AE0433 is now plotting overhead Belgium, as RCH583 (23rd Nov)
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N226G was yesterday, 2-12 at Curacao-Hato airport for a short stop

Markings were small dark blue & light blue wave on tail, engines and door closest to the cockpit.
Had plates below door and had following windows: 13+5+1+19+13
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99-6143 arrived today (17-12-2020) at Ramstein 14:15lt

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wamovements wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 08:59 N226G was yesterday, 2-12 at Curacao-Hato airport for a short stop
N226G was on a mid/south-American trip as CMB704 between 1 and 4 dec 2020...exactly when 99-6143 was not in the air (last flt 30 nov, then 6 dec again in UTC time).

Picture of CUR-visit on jetphotos: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9962548

Since a long time, this is finally a picture where a lighter, cleaned area can be made visible again where the roundel normally is on 99-6143, just by increasing the contrast:
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Same plane, different subject; Here some recent pics of 99-6143 where the refuelling connection is somewhat identifable above the cockpit, between the main doors:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/163378019 ... 2/sizes/k/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetman121 ... 7/sizes/k/

..and a rare air-to-ground view of 99-6143's recent visit to RMS:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/williammu ... 2/sizes/h/

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Hi,
Great thread to follow, heads up for the hard work!
Whilst editing some old backlog on a rainy lockdown afternoon, to my own surprise I found this shot of N226G.
Taken at Mobile Downtown june 8th 2014.
Maybe it is helpful to you guys. In the original RAW file it looks like there could be a refuelling receptable above the cockpit, not 100% sure though, it may be 'normal' strenghtening.
(So if i'm right this is most likely 99-6143?)

ImageN226G20140608 by ari boxman, on Flickr
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Larnaka (LCLK/LCA) January 20th, 2021

RCH954 96143 757
Looking at a picture of arrival this appears to be
96143 757 (13 windows front fuselage Stbd side) however the serial appears to be PC143 (might be photo quality when expanding) no disrespect to the photographer intended.
Used Hex AE0446 ATA 07.47UTC
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EA6B Prowler wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 12:09 Larnaka (LCLK/LCA) January 20th, 2021

RCH954 96143 757
Looking at a picture of arrival this appears to be
96143 757 (13 windows front fuselage Stbd side) however the serial appears to be PC143 (might be photo quality when expanding) no disrespect to the photographer intended.
Used Hex AE0446 ATA 07.47UTC
Serial worn confirmed as 96143
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